Chat Bubbles: Are You Casual Or Hardcore?

Written by: (@richieprocopio) | March 2, 2013 10:18 am

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In today’s episode of Chat Bubbles we want to know if you consider yourself a casual or hardcore MMO player. These are perhaps two of the most overused words that MMO gamers use, and to make it worse, everyone has their own definition of what they mean.

Being casual or hardcore could mean how much time you spend playing your favorite MMO. It could refer to your knowledge or skill in a game. Things aren’t always cut and dry, however. What about the guild who raids four nights every week but isn’t skillful enough to make much progress in the heroic modes? Are they casual because of their skill ceiling or hardcore because they spend 15 hours every week raiding? What about the girl who absolutely destroys people in PvP, but doesn’t have a high rating because she can’t play often?

I mentioned on GuildCast a few weeks ago that I considered myself a hardcore Guild Wars 2 player. Oh no! I said the buzzword. I should have known better, but of course the immediate reaction was, “Ha! Richie hardcore? That’s a good one.” I considered myself hardcore in the sense that I put a ton of time, energy, and passion into playing, writing about, and making videos about Guild Wars 2. I was not, however, suggesting I have legendary weapons pouring out of my orifices and an unstoppable force in world vs. world!

In general, I hate these labels that are constantly used to stroke egos and put other people down. But the words ”casual” and “hardcore” seem to incite people to comment and therefore it makes a perfect topic for a show based around community discussion.

Here’s an opportunity for the denizens of the internet to chime in and tell us how you personally define these ambiguous terms and then let us know if you consider yourself casual or hardcore. Chime in and let us know what you think about this never-ending debate.

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Chat Bubbles: Are You Casual Or Hardcore?

  • http://www.facebook.com/inkogni.alex Inkogni Alex

    Not even using those words anymore, what i and few of my friends are using is and . There are few others, but these dominate more than others.
    Dedicated to many games i own.
    why? i love the games that i consider myself dedicated, the rest of games that i play rarely are there cuz i have less friends playing them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Quinn/504633100 Jason Quinn

    I would say that I play with the frequency of a casual player, maybe a few days a week but when I play I play to be the best. Best DPS in a dungeon or raid, most knowledgable about the game and specs ect. 

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      As described, I would call that hardcore raid play.  Raid a couple of nights a week, get the very best dps out of your gear,  know your class inside out and know every encounter.  

  • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

    I don’t consider myself a hardcore progression raider.  I play alot of WoW, have two casual raiding team and casually PvP.   Very, very casual GW2 player (while I like the combat and races, I could care less about the cosmetic gear and feel no connection to the world.)  I consider myself a high disappointed former SWTOR player, but never expected or wanted to raid in SWTOR.

    From Richie writing and videos, I considered him a fairly hardcore WoW player, based on the number of years played and his description of his raiding. 

    But to be a hardcore GW2 PVE player, I don’t know.  I would figure a full boat of max level characters, a couple of legendary weapons, max level crafting, high level fractal progression.

    Hardcore GW2 WvW player, don’t know.  Maybe if you run with an organized 50-100 player team with one or more commanders. 

    Don’t know if you can be hardcore in GW2 sPvP, don’t think the game is there yet.  

  • Deathstar2x

    In Path of Exile, for example, my maximum level character is only level 60 with poor items yet higher level players with good items ask me game mechanics questions all the time. Personally, when I use the term Casual and Hardcore, I associate them with knowledge and skills in the game.

    Casual and Hardcore are just two crutch words of gaming. They don’t add anything to the conversation.

    • http://www.facebook.com/stradus.woods Stradus Woods

      That is very funny cause even tho I believe knowledge is part of it I would not consider you a hardcore player based on knowledge alone.  With out a measure of skill and time put into the game and I would not consider you a hardcore player of (said game).  Otherwise your just a gamer.

      Hardcore player would be someone that strives to be the best at there game and is (somewhat successful at it).  Casual would be someone that doesn’t take the game in a competitive way at all.  If you went the way of knowledge I am a hardcore player of games I don’t even play.

      That being said your mention of skills is unclear.  Do you mean player skill or do you mean skills, abilities, thus referring to a type of knowledge.

      • Deathstar2x

        I never said I was a casual or hardcore player, just emphasizing that time spent (and thus items acquired) does not mean you are a hardcore player.

        I was going to further emphasize the time spent subject by mentioning World of Warcraft (Item focused PVP) vs. Guild Wars (All players are ‘equal’ in PVP) player skills in my original post, but decided not to make it too lengthy. Perhaps my point was lost by not referencing those two games, but as I said it is both knowledge *and* (player) skills together.

        • http://www.facebook.com/stradus.woods Stradus Woods

          So if someone was skilled and knew everything about the game but never had a max level or beat the game you would consider them hardcore?  Based on what you are saying that’s what it sounds like to me.  Based on that I would be hardcore on almost all the games I play which I don’t consider my self to be at all at the moment.  In fact I consider my self causal and have many games I have beat or have max level characters. Which all boils down to that fact that I spend little to almost no time on anyone one game.

          Sorry if that sounded like I was labeling you anything.  I was just discussing your idea. It caught my interest IE I found it funny (meaning different then mine and interested enough to find out more about it).

          • Deathstar2x

            In World of Warcraft and similar MMOs, max level is usually required in order to know everything in those games.

            As for skills, I’m not sure it’s possible to quantify. Mastering juking, faking, animation cancelling, weaving default/auto attacks, micro, precasting, etc. is what comes to mind.

  • http://twitter.com/LiamRdsn Talos

    I’d say I’m casual I think, although I love mmos and play them all the time, I don’t have the focus to play loads now. I can’t stick to an mmo and I’m currently playing games like World of Tanks and Tera while I wait for games like Defiance, Wildstar and Archeage, if I really love a game I may become hardcore, but I tend to burn out really easy and my interest can easily lapse.

  • theunwarshed

    i have people in my life i’m obliged to share my time with and i can no longer be so self-absorbed.  having said that, when i am playing i try to have a firm grasp of the minutia of my class(es) and game systems.  i enjoy theory crafting and figuring out encounter mechanics and such.  i enjoy challenging content as well and i can get caught up in  the striving for success, sometimes pushing my fellow casual guildies a little too hard to achieve it.   overall casual but with some hardcore leanings is where i’m at these days.

  • Hicks64

    In the general, gaming-sense I’d define someone as hardcore or softcore based on the time and commitment they spend on a game or games. And with that I’d consider myself pretty hardcore as a gamer in general.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mark.bradden.1 Mark Bradden

    Guild wars 2 is not hardcore game more for casual players. I’m hardcore gamer meaning I play many game’s and spend a lot of time in Planetside 2 was Guild wars 2 but it so bad

  • http://www.facebook.com/devon.barela Devon Barela

    I define Casual and Hardcore gamers as such; A Casual gamer will schedule gaming in whenever his life allows it.  and a Hardcore will schedule life in when the video game allows it.

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