Obama orders research on video game violence


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Obama orders research on video game violence
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President Obama Tells CDC to Research Violent Video Games

President Barack Obama held a press conference today on gun violence and how his administration plans to fight it. One of his 23 executive orders, which he signed today, directs the Center for Disease Control to study the causes of violent behavior. The president wants Congress to allocate $10 million toward the study of violent media, including movies, television and, you guessed it, video games.

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Last week, Vice President Joe Biden met with executives, researchers, and representatives from the gaming industry as part of a series of summits to figure out solutions to gun violence. At that meeting, Biden told Electronic Art’s chief executive officer John Riccitiello that he has made no judgment about video games and that the president just wanted to get all of the research.

Obama’s press conference focused primarily on gun control. Obama seemed to have no intent to ban, censor, or limit video games in any way, although he did not mention whether he would take the Entertainment Software Association’s advice and simultaneously research the benefits of games while looking for their negative effects.

“We don’t benefit from ignorance. We don’t benefit from not knowing the science of this epidemic of violence.” Obama said. “Congress should fund research into the effects violent video games have on young minds.”

The specific order reads as follows: “Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence.”

“As important as these steps are, they are in no way a substitute for action from Congress,” Obama said.

It can be very easily assumed that the call for this order stems from the a national desire to combat gun violence after a string of mass murders, like the one at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Conn. And the nation-wide concern for the associated gun laws in America.game industry news     Obama Orders Research on Video Game Violence

But why videogames?

Video games have seemingly always had a bad rep in society, especially when these incredibly tragic mass shootings happen.

In 1993, around the release of DOOM the senate held a hearing to discuss violent video games. At this hearing they hoped to gather the perspectives of relevant groups, including key figures from Nintendo of America and SEGA of America, as well as educators and other stakeholders. Senators Joseph Lieberman, Byron Dorgan, and Herbert Kohl felt that with the holiday season approaching, the senate needed to act in order to curtail the level of violence and sex in games sold to children. To demonstrate how inappropriate games were becoming, these senators showed video footage of two games, Night Trap and Mortal Kombat.

On April 20th 1999, students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold of Columbine High School in Columbine, Colorado effected the then most violent school shooting in the United States. Groups from concerned parents to psychologists criticized everything from Harris and Klebold’s favorite bands to the prescription antidepressants Harris took. Among the hobbies criticized were violent computer games such as Doom and Wolfenstein 3D.

Two years after the shooting, parents of the victims sued a number of violent video game creators. Companies named included Sony, AOL, maker of Doom ID Software, and Atari. Twenty-five companies were named in total. The lawsuit itself stated “absent the combination of extremely violent video games and these boys’ incredibly deep involvement, use of and addiction to these games and the boys’ basic personalities, these murders and this massacre would not have occurred” and sought $5 billion in damages. The case, however, was thrown out by the federal judge.

More recently, in 2011, a California bill attempting to restrict the sale of violent video games to children under 18 was struck down at the Supreme Court. In a 7-2 decision, the Supreme Court stated that video games qualify for first amendment protection. Though psychological studies suggest that the interactivity of video games separates them from television programs or graphic comic books, the legal system has established and confirmed precedent asserting that they are effectively the same.

Just last week, Gamebreakers own Lopez reported on an investigation on gun violence led by Vice President Joe Biden who met with executives, researchers, and representatives from the gaming industry to discuss some possible solutions to the issue. At that meeting, Biden told Electronic Art’s chief executive officer John Riccitiello that he has made no judgment about video games and that the president just wanted to get all of the research.

A few days ago I also reported on the same topic, specifically that a Massachusetts mayor, Robert Dolan, proposed launching a violent game trade-in program aimed at persuading families to get rid of their violent video games, movies, and toys by offer­ing coupons to residents who turn in those items at the city yard.

It was also reported today that a Representative of Missouri, Diane Franklin, is calling for a sales tax on violent video games. The proposed bill states: “the term ‘violent video game’ means a video or computer game that has received a rating from the Entertainment Software Rating Board of Teen, Mature, or Adult Only.” Meaning that , if successfully passed, Teen-rated games like The Sims 3, Starcraft 2, EVE Online and Tropico 4 would all be taxed 1% in Missouri on account of how “violent” they are. The tax will be used to finance mental health programs and law enforcement measures to prevent mass shootings. It should be noted here that no other form of media is being targeted by this proposal.

Similar legislative attempts were held in Oklahoma and New Mexico, both of which failed to pass.

A whole lot of discussion is being held on this topic. We at Gamebreaker want to know what you think? Is there a correlation between video games and real-world violence? Do you think President Obama made a good call on conducting this research?


  • http://profile.yahoo.com/APHJB3QZIDC34QYRLE2RAUSLMU TJ

    Why blame the person who did it when you can milk so much more money out of tax payers by blaming video games.

    • http://twitter.com/Thaedris Brandon

      ikr

  • http://www.facebook.com/inkogni.alex Inkogni Alex

    Does any one know what games does Obama play? I have a strange urge to get on that game and grief him be it WoW or my little pony

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Phil-Thompson/1646123599 Phil Thompson

    So they are going to spend $10 million  on something that we all know isn’t the causeI have been playing games most of my life and I never once wanted to go out and do it in real life.

    This clown just wants to spend more tax payers money on useless things.

    • Joseph Gabrielli

      What they want to do is find something to blame it on so that they don’t look like idiots. But w/e that’s the U.S. government for you, as idiotic and corrupt as it gets…

  • Renaise

    Wouldn’t it make more sense to put more funding into mental health issues in general? People are scared and so obsessed with the “quick fix” answers, “Oh violent video games are evil and should be banned! That will make sure this never happens again!”

    Ummm… actually I’m afraid it won’t. The issue is so much more complex and once again people would rather turn to the easy (albeit ridiculous) answers, than admit that ignorance over mental health problems is far more to blame than any piece of escapist entertainment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/charner Charner Boney

    I’m glad their spending OUR Tax money (10 million!) to come up with results that what will persuade politicians and ignorant parents to drop the subject. I don’t believe they’ll find anything significant, just like all the other studies beforehand. 

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1653322492 Kevin J. Redmond

      The danger, which Michael Crichton spent the latter portion of his writing career trying to highlight, is that when scientists in a lab or clinical situation start getting funding from an organization seeking a certain outcome… they tend to lose the ability to conduct an empirical study and start providing biased results.  Scientists are not infallible, and they do tend to favor wherever the money that pays their bills comes from.  It’s why he pushed for a reform to the way studies are conducted in this country.

  • http://twitter.com/Hagg3r Michael

    Not only was it a bad call, because it is a waste of money, but this is money that could have gone to mental healthcare instead. If they want to do research, they should pickup a damn controller.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1653322492 Kevin J. Redmond

    There have already been extensive studies trying to find a link between violence in media, including studies done specifically with video games, and violent actions among youth.  None of those studies actually showed any link, and in fact discounted the allegations.  I’m involved in education, and the last study I read actually showed that school violence is down some 40% since 1994.  A student is something like 10 times more likely to be struck by lightning, than to be involved in an incident of school violence, and that’s not even the egregious acts of violence.  The problem isn’t an increase in violence, it is an increase in sensationalist, fear-mongering reporting by the media.  It’s no different than the advent of the Patriot Act after 911.  Despite the evidence being that Americans are safer than they’ve ever been, we hand off our liberties because the media scares us into believing we need it.  When we get scared, we’ll do anything to protect ourselves and our loved ones… even if we don’t need it.  We need to stop letting the government grow in power by abusing our survival instinct.

    It’s quite simple, in my humble opinion.  The problem isn’t the media or video games, it is bad parenting and turning these violent offenders into pop media icons.

  • Hicks64

    I’m glad our government can focus on this rather than our economy.

  • Joseph Gabrielli

    I have been playing violent shooter games for upwards of 8 years, and I can say that it hasn’t made me someone that loves guns nor someone who likes violence. In fact i hate violence in all forms and real guns scare me to death. For ME video games have no impact whether I am a violent person or not. I can see how people might think violent games have an impact on people but I don’t think that’s the case.

  • Monstercloud

    “But why videogames?”

    Because people are stupid, and it’s easy to calm them to tell them that they’re looking at something, no matter how non-relevant and inane it is, even if they’ve done it hundreds of times before.

    There is really nothing else to say other than, “You have to be an out of touch idiot.” It’s 2013, where games of any genre are readily available and consumed quickly, yet no matter how long of a span we go without some psychopath going on a shooting spree (with illegal/stolen guns), we always return to the easy scapegoat.

    Considering there have been studies and scrutiny about the video game industry and it’s effects once it became more than just a fad, how about we take a look else where? Lets see, the media have repeatedly gone after books, guns, movies, TV shows, music, video games….yet the media doesn’t look at themselves. Will it ever happen? Nope! Because IDIOTS will immediately place blame on something they don’t understand, and will easily form strong opinions based on that ignorance.

    How about there’s a bit more outrage over the coverage over the victims and the psychopathic, nobodies that commit these atrocities by these preying on the emotionally weak vultures, sensationalizing whore media, and look to change the way they operate. Until then, the vast majority of Americans that go after the same “problem” ad infinitum, can go fuck themselves.

  • InvaderMig

    Political pressure plain and simple.  With all the NRA’s talk of video violence, people have been parroting that nonsense.  The good thing to take away from this is that the study involves all media and is not focused on video games.  I wouldn’t get my panties in a bunch, it’s just another study.

  • David Cole

    You don’t see this kind of violence in other countries who also have these games……it has nothing to do with video game violence and you don’t need $10M in research to understand that.

  • http://twitter.com/Tidonius Tidonius

    Now, we all know that this 1% tax isn’t going to be used for programs to help prevent mass shootings. If it goes to anything remotely close to the programs they are describing, it’s most likely someone involved in the legislation’s company. This has happened time and time again throughout our nation’s history and is extremely prominent in state legislatures where the media isn’t as fixated.

  • CmdrBretai

    I seem to recall that a number of years back these so called “investigations and research” into video game violence happened after a number of shootings. Its nothing short of amazing to me that when these things do happen some form of media is looked at.

    We have had music pounded on during the 80-90s when gang warfare was at its peak, then movies and then of course gaming. I have yet to see any benefit to these reviews outside of finger pointing and not sticking to the issues at hand…enforce the current gun control laws.

    The ESRB was founded and though I dont particularly care for it, it does rate video games so that parents have a little more information on what to purchase for their children.

    I can maybe, just maybe see how some sort of violent media getting someone amped up to a point,  however in the end I’d bet my last dollar there were some serious and more problematic things happening that would cause someone to gun violence…not because of a media format.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PUJVR5QE4EWMR7QHDOJ4NRHJUY ~CC~

     Some parents blame the games they bought there kids not paying attention to the games rating on it. Games that are rated 17+ and for adults  retailers will not sell to kids so the parents go in and buy it for them . If the violence in video games is a issue then the parents buying these games for minors need to be held responsible as well. The companies developing the games put the ratings on the games for a reason but because there kids are bugging them for it they go get it to shut them up. Maybe the president should look at parenting not entertainment the parents letting the kids play these games watch the violent movies need to be held accountable as well.

  • http://twitter.com/Nathiest Nathiest

    Books have violence too. Perhaps we need to banned all books here in America just to be on the safe side.

    • Demi_God

       Especially history books, they contain records of war.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Lord-Styx/1800631029 Lord Styx

    Don’t believe what are they really after government to this day has done way worse specifically are government.  I hate everything they lie about.  Which is everything.  Tired of the puppet show and all the people that think this is serious because of what there talking about.  Its not serious because of what they talk about.  The serious thing is everything they have already have done. They already know what games do.  The military is the one that started research into gaming.  <.< Frankly the pieces on my favorite game site is depressing. 

    "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
    eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
    time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
    and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
    important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
    the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
    truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    Joseph Goebbels

  • valkilmer

    I don’t mind paying 1% extra tax on anything if its going to mental health research

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      Sadly, that’s not the way those taxes work.  The taxes are put into a general fund and maybe the general budget includes funding for mental health research.    

      In this case, you will probably end up with some TV commercials telling parents that video games are bad for children or funding lawyers to sue the video game industry. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/stuart.chafin Stuart Chafin

    People always look for a easy blame.  I was in High school during the Combine Shootings.  My school then banned (with threat of harsh discipline) all trench coats.  Yep the evil of trench coats.  It was of course not rational.  The trench coats had nothing to do with anything, but it was a easy out.  No one likes to feel helpless, but we need to look at things a little more logically.  Then we can form defenses against these crimes instead of useless rules.  I don’t think we can blame games anymore than we can blame the Tee shirts they like to wear.  I wouldn’t feel anysafer if everyone had to wear turtle necks. Would you?

  • http://www.facebook.com/dal.latee Dal Latee

    Bit of a waste of funds, if you ask me.  The problem isn’t games.  The problem is bad parenting. 

    I would like to think that most parents wouldn’t allow their children to run around completely unsupervised, and yet that is what they’re doing whenever children/teens hop onto the internet/online communities and act like little monsters because anonymity allows them to get away with it.  When parents allow that sort of behavior to flourish and fester in their children.. well, really.. how do you think they’re going to turn out?

    I am, sadly, rarely surprised whenever we hear about a tragedy like some of the ones that have happened lately.  I almost never look at the internet/online communities and think “what a pleasant bunch of people”.

    Parents need to watch their children’s online activities like hawks. If that means spying on their behavior in-game, or monitoring the types of posts they make online, etc.. then so be it. And when you see your child doing something that disturbs you, be the parent you’re supposed to be and deal with it before they become society’s problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kevin.cox.5817 Kevin Cox

    I don’t want to live on this planet anymore

    • Ravenstorm

      Cheer up mate. Mr Obama is a decent fellow. He won’t go charging into anything brainfarted.

      • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

        lol, believe in the cult.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1671606446 Andrew LaChance

    I recently wrote a research paper for my college inquiry seminar class about violent video games and aggression.  After reading 30+ experiments ranging from 1980s to last year.  Scientists can almost confirm that video games do cause an increase in aggressive behavior.  The factor most non-scientists look over is how the size of the increase differs from person to person.  Violent Video Games do not make a player a killer.  They might help someone already suffering from a mental disorder act out, but even if the person did not play video games they would have most likely caused the same amount of harm.  Most Video Game players do not dream about walking through an airport murdering thousands of civilians.  Most are disturbed by the very idea.

    We need to take some stand on the regulation of violent video games sold to children though. Many years of study has proven that young children are impressionable through their environment.  Its the reason why most children hold the same political views as their parents until they move out.  When I recently attended Skyfall, I noticed that two parents had brought their 5 and 8 year old sons.  That is wrong on so many levels.  So many parents do not think about what they are exposing to their children.  If parents don’t understand that young children and violence is bad, then we need to stop them from exposing their children.  Just like in many states its illegal for a child to shoot a gun or drink alcohol.

    tl;dr Sale of violent video games to minors needs to be regulated.  Games are rated T and M for a reason.

    • Ravenstorm

      Agreed. Me personally, I had to explain my son why he couldn’t have Farcry 3.

      He then asked me why, and I told him about the storyline, the images shown, etc. We talked about it calmly, but I clearly stated there were boundaries when it comes to violence, as to his psychological growth, and the possible damage it could inflict seeing such sadistical images and feelings might make him indifferent to them.

      That’s me personaly. Although I appreciate games, I talk with my kids and will always explain myself. I make it very clear, the difference between fiction and real violence.

      It’s also to do with the psychological effects what makes me decide. Black Ops 2 is also violent, but they don’t go executing innocent tourist kids. That’s not fun, that’s pure sadism.

    • Zumime

      I don’t know about T games, but M games are regulated as much as they can be. They aren’t supposed to be sold to minors. Employees at game stores are supposed to verify the age of the purchaser. If they don’t then that isn’t a problem with the system, it’s a problem with the employee. If a parent buys a violent game for their kid, it’s not a problem with the system, it’s a (possible) problem with the parent. Video games aren’t like drugs or alcohol, and they don’t need to be regulated as heavily as those.

      Also, I question the methods of the experiments that you studied. Methodology is practically more important than the experiment itself. Did they cross-compare video game results with other forms of aggressive behavior? For example, I wonder how much more aggressive they would consider somebody playing football. I have a suspicion that football players are more “aggressive” during, and perhaps for a time after, playing a game of football. Does that mean we should demonize football? Of course not.

    • Michael Connor

      That is the parent’s decision, not the governments to make.

    • Revanhavoc

      Thoughtful and well research. I appreciate your comments.

      There is Freedom of Expression in art that I don’t think should ever be controlled, but there should be reasonable limitations on everything that is promoted or sold, especially when legal minors are concerned (i.e. our children).

  • Ravenstorm

    The Videogame Inquisition commences in earnest.

    Trouble is, not as many parents actually also game, as their kids do. If they did, even if it were only some of the time, I think the whole boogeyman hunt would be different.
    You need to understand a thing to be able to have some control of a thing.

    It’s too lazy for parents to try to eradicate games. I can understand people though, saying they just don’t have the time to play games, or the need, after working all day to provide for their family.

    Sadly, any form of unbiased school gaming education as to make gaming less harmfull looking in the eyes of concerned working parents and citizens is going to fail horribly at this point, because of government-state-influences of said school education.

    The South Koreans have schools and Universities of Gaming. I don’t see parents there berzerking against them. South Korean students start their gaming carreers in high school and are also multidisciplinary into computer animation, character setup, internet site design, animation -computer and pre/post-production, gaming programming, you name it.

    Fearmongering isn’t going to lead us into the future, but comprehension will.
    Gaming is freedom of mind. I hope Mr Obama will take that in consideration when he evaluates whichever findings he gets to see from that research.

  • Ravenstorm

    Cheer up mate. Mr Obama is a decent fellow. He won’t go charging into anything brainfarted.

  • RBHgamer

    I’m actually glad that they are gonna do research on the subject instead of just getting gut feeling opinions from lawmakers as their compass.  I for one have no doubt that the research will show that video games are at most an ancillary contributor to gun violence.  The root of the problem is much more complex.  The only sure way to decrease gun violence is to decrease access to guns when people get unbalanced or show an inability to manage their anger.

    • A Little Logic

      I personally am not happy, but more not for the need to do it kind of attitude but more the we are kind of in debt a lot type of attitude. Now, if was any other place besides the America wanting to do it then I wouldn’t mind even if my personal beliefs think it not really worth it.

      I tend to think a lot things cause increase of violence like the internet or more specifically the things that can happen on the internet. It the sad fact it the way things are of superior and inferior beings. If you don’t believe in what I believe in then you are far inferior to me, and I am the superior one. This is very weak idea with one person, but a whole group of people thinking the same thing usually can cause an issue for the one with a different belief.

      This is why we got racial, sexual, etc. issues because they aren’t like “us” and do something completely different that seems so wrong from what we are taught. So, we put them down for whatever reason.. ” he weird because he doesn’t really socialize” … ‘he such a nerd”…”look at that *racial commenting*” … “she such a slut for….” 

      The worse part is the way we can communicate faster and faster each day is causing this mentality grow bigger and bigger by a single person making a comment and other blindly following his lead. It why cyberbully probably helped increase the rate of suicides and violence because human beings do have a breaking point and depending on there personality they either take it out on other then themselves or just themselves.

      We need stop blaming games and movies for some these things. (TV can be questionable) Sadly, we as in people are to stubborn to admit we messed up or contributed to this somehow since some of us are the nice kind of person who accepts you for who you are.. but that not all of us. 

      Want to fix the problem? take away the things that make life easier! Just kidding because it just only localizes the problems not really fixing the issue. Basically, there is probably an answer for “utopia” out there but it going be really weird version than all the ones we have ever learned about…

      • RBHgamer

        Wow, a lot of tangents to my point there.  The only point I was making is that entertainment that incorporates some violence into itself will likely be shown to worsen the violent tendencies that already exist in people who are already over the edge.  As and ancillary contributor it can only worsen a problem that already exists in people who need help to control their violence.  But the millions of firearms in the U.S. is by far the biggest contributor to those violent outbursts being national tragedies. 

  • ansamech

    ” We at Gamebreaker want to know what you think? Is there a correlation between video games and real-world violence?”

    NO. Is there a correlation between real-world violence and real-world violence? YES. You could have every movie, book or video game be sesame street or barney and there would still be the same violence. Why? Because look at the real world. Virtually every country is at some sort of war. Every news station covers car accidents, murders, robberies, and WARS. the difference is that is REAL. People know video games are fictitious, and that the news and the crime is real. when the US media and gov is proud to have killed so many insurgents or terrorists or w/e what influence does that have on people? One that is a lot more powerful than fictitious entertainment.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Bowden/1032878942 Bill Bowden

    I blame religion

  • http://twitter.com/cipero Matt Cipriano

    It’s important to remember that correlation does not always mean causation. 

  • theunwarshed

    obviously what is needed here is the Ludovico Technique.

  • http://twitter.com/Rahziell kevin alford

    Here’s an idea, take that $10M and put it towards the national debt or put it towards unemployment benefits, or education. Not into research that already has an obvious answer. It never ceases to amaze me how much money the government wastes. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Parsons/100001824377795 Joseph Parsons

      research has ben done befor for you noobs that not no and games dont make ppl kill ppl that have gun out for kids to get do

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joseph-Parsons/100001824377795 Joseph Parsons

    it a war on games y not a war on guns 

    • Michael Connor

      People kill people. If they can’t get their handson guns, they’ll find another way. History has proven that.

  • theunwarshed

    Obama: “We’re going to create a world without sin, it’s called the PAX Initiative.”

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1199565445 Howie Eddins

    He’s gonna blame everything else than what it really is…So they take away guns, then video games…Whats next, Music? Good Lord…They’ve been on that trip for a looooooooooong time

  • Zumime

    Hey government, give me that 10 million because I just did all the research you need. In 2008 there were ~250 million civilian guns in the U.S. and ~18,000 gun related homicides. Now look at a country like Japan. In 2008 there were ~700 thousand civilian guns and ~580 gun related homicides.

    What’s the difference? Not video games. We both play our fair share of violent video games. I have a feeling there were less gun homicides because *there were less guns*. Omgwtfbbq!!

    • Michael Connor

      Did you even think before you compared Japan and the US? The population of Japan is 1/3 what the US’s is. Of course we are going to have more guns, especially when our second ammendment is The Right To Bear Arms. People always seem to think guns are the issue. More people die from car wrecks, should we ban cars? People kill people, if not one way, they’ll find another.

      • Zumime

        So if we triple the population of Japan and keep the gun ownership percentage even that would mean there are around 2.1 million guns, and we can guess the gun violence will be proportionally similar, which means there would be roughly 2000 homicide deaths by guns. This shows that population is irrelevant.

        Also, if “people kill people [one way or another]” wouldn’t that be a pretty good reason to get rid of guns still? If people are just going to kill each other no matter what, then apparently they aren’t mature and responsible enough to own such dangerous machinery. And don’t quote the Second Amendment because that said people have the right to bear arms when “arms” were muskets that took 30 seconds to fire each shot.

      • Revanhavoc

        My God man I am bashing my head against my keyboard right now reading your comments.

        There are PER CAPITA statistics available and it ranks the United States much worse than any comparably developed, wealthy nation in both gun murder rates and gun violence.

        You are living in a frightened nightmare world where you think a car and a firearm are in the same category of conversation. They have completely different functions in society.

        It is your right to keep believing the prevelance of guns doesn’t contribute to the level of gun violence, but the rest of the country is quickly moving away from that position. We will see…

        We will just see.

    • Roy Bishop

       Did you actually run those numbers?
      18,000 / 250,000,000 = 0.00007%
      580 / 700,000 = 0.00008%

      so… according to your numbers, less availability of guns = greater percentage of gun related homicides

      • Zumime

        That is true, however the fact remains that Japan has a mere fraction of ours. As far as I am concerned one one-hundred-thousandth of a percentage is negligible.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/F2XRQU4GOV52OTKES2ZLGRBOOE rusty

     If they do the research right and don’t try and buy answers it will get them of the industries back. Seriously the more defensive you get about it the more ammunition you give these people. Nothing wrong with saying hey we think your looking at the wrong area but go ahead and look. We’ve got nothing to hide. However if the people doing these studies are obviously bias they will find what they want to and then we have a problem.

  • Jeremy Keat

    Throwing punches in the pitch-black darkness hoping to hit something it seems. Rather than go for the difficult like drug and healthcare issues, societal oppression, economic oppression, legal oppression (Aaron Shwartz anybody?) and the corruption and unfairness that gets under people’s skin today.

    These things are root cause of killings today, not the fact we have guns in society or weapons and violence in fictional media. If we keep failing to address the major issues of our soceties problems we will never solve this issue because people will always attempt the same things over and over.

    Not to mention these “mass shootings” are actually a minority of violent crimes and actual killings, even yet gun-based killings in our country. In the past month there has likely been WAY more blacks killed with guns and violent crimes and where is the national coverage?

    Where is the national coverage of all the people dying from prescription drugs and all sorts of preventable maladies causes by corporations, allowed by government approval?

    Where is the national coverage of people killed by car crashes?

    Where is the national coverage of people killed by police?

    Or better yet where is there any meaningful call to action on social change or positive, philosophic discourse and progression promoting news? Instead of glorifying these events and stirring up unnecessary fear or concern.

    It seems we haven’t came very far, it wasn’t too long ago when music was the cause civil disobedience and crimes, then liberal movies. Let’s just keep attacking the newest media and technology shall we?

    • Revanhavoc

      It doesn’t help to dismiss the problems.

      I can’t answer why we don’t care more about poverty as an issue, and that bothers me.

      What I do know is that cars perform a vital function in our society to almost everyone. The contribution of guns is far less important on an individual civilian basis.

      Police do not commit mass murder, and they too perform vital functions to the stability of our cities.

      Over 10,000 gun murders per year and nearly 100,000 gun violence victims is not normal. Compared with other developped countries around the world who also deal with car accidents and police brutality, the level of gun violence is shocking and incomparable.

      Your frustrations about society are reasonable and I agree with most of them. But please don’t let that drown out the current debate. People like me who believe certain things have to change need thoughtful people like you to understand this doesn’t have to be the norm.

      • Jeremy Keat

        The main first point is that our uniquely high rates have nothing to do with guns being available as they are but other serious issues. The media des not bring other factors in the light nor is there serious discussion on how the help the people without a measure that gets corporations and too big to fail types rich.

        The drug problems are important, that strikes home to me more than gun violence because I hear WAY more stories of crimes and killings allowed to happen from legal drug use. I hear more people oppressed and abused by laws, courts and law-enforcement than ever involved in a gun crime.

        Yes I have lived in a neighborhood that was mostly black and heard shootings time to time, moved to another neighborhood not a ghetto and there still was a gang related shooting at a neighbor’s house.

        Still guns being free as they are, are a less frightening thought at it’s worst than the other issues I addressed. Even if all the psychotic people had guns, still less frightening, if they were killers, they would still try to kill me, I don’t care about their tools.

        Guns may not see as much use as my car, chair, kitchen knife, screwdriver or hammer but neither of which will defend me at a time when such force or attackers of numbers can overpower or have guns themselves.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=544311770 Asgeir Kvitvik

    Going after games … idiots .. better gun control, parents spend more time with their kids… parents and school teach children morals and educate them instead of this lame witchunt for videogames … 

  • http://www.facebook.com/shane.cominotto Shane Cominotto

    Parents are to blame if there children become violent because i bet you that most parents let their 6-7 year olds play 18+ games cause they just dont give a damn. On the other hand my parents let me watch R18 movies when i was like 10 and now i punch grannies in the face before breakfast ¬_¬ but seriously stop bashing video games and start bashing parents. 

    Games dont kill people, People kill people.

    • Jeremy Keat

      Well and the fact that parents let video games be the baby-sitter and fail to do any parenting most of the day or spend quality time with their children, helping them to discover meaningful life interests.

  • Krzysztof Kotarba

    LOL

    I play games for like 20+ years… give me 10 million $ and I’ll tell you how violent games changed me. 
    spoiler alert: I never attacked random citizen, didn’t shoot anyone.

    • Jeremy Keat

      I take up that challenge too…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Bergevin-Jr/1393526370 Jim Bergevin Jr

    And before video games, Rock Music was blamed. What was blamed before either of these things existed. The problem is not music, movies/TV, games, or guns solely, but the changes we have experienced in society that have absolved us of personal responsibility. If you, as a parent, are aware your child has a problem, then it is your responsibility to ensure that your child be given the care that is necessary to prevent your child from harming themselves and others (and the gov’s responsibility to ensure such services are provided), which includes not handing them things which can lead to violence.

  • Michael Connor

    The government just doesn’t want to say that people kill people. Most people don’t like to think that someone could just go and kill people for absolutely no reason. So to make the masses feel good, they have to find things that HAD to have been the issue, when in actuality it was just a fucked up person.

  • William Dayan

    I generally don’t comment on these things, but I felt I needed to on this. When it comes to games and young minds, I think violent games, desensitize kids about violence, but no more then most PG-13 movies, or the news. And to the anti-gun guys, there has been a ton of studies done showing stricter gun laws have no affect on reducing crime violent (It seems to be the opposite in most cases.) Crazy people do crazy things, there’s not much we can do about it, if they didn’t use guns, they would have used bombs instead. I believe that parents shouldn’t let their kids play violent games when their young ( younger then 13 or so) but making a law about how to rise your kids isn’t something I would want. The ten million dollars should go to medial research how to cure mental illness, not weather or not violent games have an affect on kids. Because lets be honest here, if you let a game change the way you think, you most likely have some mental illness that needs to be treated. And if you notice your friends displaying signs of an illness just ask them if there doing alright, I think the reason we are seeing more mass shootings is because people are alot more disconnected with people in there lifes, as everyone just texts, or fbs when there in the next room. So when there are the tall tale signs of something being wrong you don’t see them as your not connecting with them in the way you used to 15 years ago or so.

    Anyways thats just one mans option, Thank god for the First and Second Amendment.
    -xDayan

    • Revanhavoc

      The studies you are referring to are flawed in that they examine particular cities or areas in a vacuum, not examining the surrounding areas and how, for instance, lax gun laws in neighbouring states can counter-act any strict gun laws in a particular city.

      You see there are these things called cars that people can use to drive and buy guns wherever they want. Just like drugs. The drugs people use aren’t usually produced in the city they are consumed, they come from somewhere else. It’s the same thing with guns.

      I don’t mean to sound condescending but I just get so damn frustrated when I see people re-iterate NRA propaganda that simply does not stack up when you compare any other wealthy, developed nation around the world.

      And a gun is far easier to use at a distance, than a knife is up close, or a bomb and all the complications that come with the construction. It’s about accessibility, ease
      of use, and detachment.

      Hunting and self defence are separate from man killing ammunition like hollow point rounds and weapons of mass murder with high capacity magazines and rapid fire (semi or fully automatic).

      In countries around the world people don’t use bombs or knives to kill each other like Americans use guns to kill each other. To deny this is fantasy.

      • Jeremy Keat

        But the deaths and violence happens it doesn’t matter the tools used if they achieve the same results. Intent is the most important thing in this factor, and with malicious intent anything could be made a weapon and anybody could be made victim. People quoting mere gun number factoids, ignore that truth.

        Saying we need to beat the idea of access to guns over the head ignores completely the issue of intent, no if and or buts to that. When guns are a focal point and topic, that means all other issues are drowned out and put on the sidelines until this very controversial issue settles. In the mean time we still have not gotten to addressing intent.

        We haven’t begun to talk seriously and focus on the cause and effect chain, instead it has been systematically ignored. It is a lie to say “we will get to addressing it” or that talk about guns or a lame scape goat like fictional non-persuasive media, doesn’t impede with address the other serious CORE issues. A lie because, after all those past mass shooting we have seen nothing but attacks on guns and fictional media and only legislation past on limiting guns, like Columbine- which obviously hasn’t worked.

    • Jeremy Keat

      Couldn’t agree more with that statement as in the post I made below I share that sentiment.

  • http://twitter.com/AisarGaming Aisar

    I like the way this is being handled and I am not overly concerned yet.  They are looking into more than just video games and don’t seem to be putting the spotlight directly on gaming and our hobby.  I understand that a large enough pool of people are concerned and they have to do something to appease the masses.  They can’t just ignore the violence issues and say video games have nothing to do with it, that would not cut it for people.  I hope they produce some good results from these studies.  I don’t know what the solution is but I will be staying informed and watching the whole thing go down.

    There are so many issues at work here such as mental illness, extreme isolation, parenting issues, it’s a mess.  Something has to change and I am really glad it’s not me looking into this can of worms or making the decisions.

  • http://twitter.com/MiZTiiX MiZTiiX

    Pointless waste of money which could be used on cancer research or something more productive. It’s already proven video games do not cause violence

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/William-Powers/1034920241 William Powers

    Yeah let’s not waste more money researching something which has already been researched extensively and proven that there is no correlation between violent games and violent behavior. I would say that a bigger concern is getting parents to raise their children properly, be involved in their lives, and teach them coping mechanisms so they don’t fly off the deep end or avoid seeking help they might need. 

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