Elder Scrolls Online Reaction Not Unexpected By Bethesda

Written by: (@winterinformal) | June 11, 2012 5:00 pm

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Not sure what to think about The Elder Scrolls Online yet?

You’re not alone, and, perhaps more importantly, the makers of the game know that.

Pete Hines, Bethesda‘s head of PR and marketing, said in a recent interview with Eurogamer that they “knew the reaction would be mixed” — largely because it wasn’t Skyrim: The MMO, which is what players wanted but would be impossible:

“I certainly felt that some people were going to expect Skyrim, but massively multiplayer, which, if we could have done that, we would have just done that, right? We would have just done Skyrim that lets you play with a thousand other people.”

According to the article, Hines also believed that much of the negativity surrounding the game came from some early descriptions by journalists but that players would eventually make the decisions for themselves.

“We’re going to give it time and give ourselves a chance to explain all the other things we’re doing, let people see it, let people play it. It’s a marathon, especially with an MMO…

“We want to keep informing, but get it to the point where people play it, because it’s just a wholly different thing experiencing when you play it versus when you watch somebody.”

What do you think? Assuming that a multi-player Skyrim adaptation was out of the question, what would you do to make an Elder Scrolls MMO?

Elder Scrolls Online Reaction Not Unexpected By Bethesda

  • http://twitter.com/ookamiwing Phillip Rushing

    TESO=Meh

  • http://twitter.com/snogaming Sno

    I would adopt a newish combat system, maybe something similar to Tera. That is much closer to something fans may want, rather than copying the cookie-cuter 1-10 talent mold.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ricardo-J-Valdivia/667333027 Ricardo J Valdivia

    not technically  feasible? such bull LOL!

  • Sathure

    “I certainly felt that some people were going to expect Skyrim, but
    massively multiplayer, which, if we could have done that, we would have
    just done that, right? We would have just done Skyrim that lets you play
    with a thousand other people.”

    LOL Really? This excuse again? Again look at Darkfall that game came out back in 2009.. It had first person perspective. Action combat, no classes all skill based system. It’ such a load of crap to say that they couldn’t do something similar in a massively multiplayer environment when other games are already doing it.

    Negativity from Journalists descriptions? What Journalist descriptions. No one has played the game yet. Who’s going to describe it? Everything people have been going off on are words from YOUR developers in interviews.

    Ge the PR apologist out of here. Come back when you actually have something to show and prove us wrong.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1260066056 Steven Diaz

    I love The Elder Scrolls franchise BECAUSE of the realistic feel of the graphics, the back-story aaaannnnnddd…..aaaannnndddd….. and the combat.  This MMO might HAVE the story in it, but that’s the ONLY thing in it that belongs to the Elder Scrolls universe.  Each time a new Elder Scrolls is released, they DO change the graphics and the growth system a bit but it’s to move up the graphics and skills ladder.  Fans of the Elder Scrolls would have enjoyed a multiplayer game rather than this generic MMO.  If the PvP is the only thing that’s really standing out on this MMO, it’s further proof that it has nothing to do with the universe it’s set up on.  The technology to make an Elder Scrolls MMO IS there, unfortunately, they just don’t want to take the chance.  They want to mostly play it safe and make it easy on themselves.  Unless this is F2P, I wont even glance in its general direction.  I have GW2 which stands out.  This game might not fail, but I highly doubt it will be a hit among Elder Scrolls fans.  I’ll just wait for the mod that adds multiplayer to Skyrim to be finished.  Now THAT sounds perfect.

  • http://www.facebook.com/BDsCakes Melissa Brown

    An Elder Scrolls MMO should have what Elder Scrolls games have been known for for almost 25 years. First- reactive combat, skill based not button based. When Daggerfall came out, it was awesome that you used your mouse as a weapon, rather than button mashing. Also, building relationships with factions in the game, creating a personal reputation for your character. Huge, open world with varied environments. Instead of questing, you should just be attempting to make a name for yourself within whatever subgroup you wish to impress (Thieves Guild, Dark Brotherhood, Fighter’s Guild, etc.). Not hard. NOT Skyrim Online. I’ve been playing these games since Arena, and I didn’t like Skyrim.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Johnson/1353890372 Michael Johnson

    “Difference of opinion”

    I’m so. FUCKING. Tired of these MMO companies PR talk

  • jayremy

    Things that will be longed for and missed in TESO will be dragons, shouts, first person realistic combat (combined with third person capabilities), game engine and the build your own custom class, style.

    Fortunately at least they still have Skyrim but most people really just wanted a more polished TES:Skyrim design to be MMO friendly, which has nothing to do with combat and character/class design only the game world environment.

    Maybe copying Skyrim would’ve not been great I can see and agree with devs on that but they should have at least done an after-Skyrim story or at least have the dragon part play a role because we all know everybody loved the shout system.

    The region of Skyrim could’ve also been done without again I can agree with them on using the entire geographic story region of the games, but I think they should’ve tried to make the game work and be familiar as possible to TES: Skyrim.

  • Jado Cast

    I just wanted an open world AAA sandbox, not a typical MMO. Why haven’t we seen gameplay by now if they have worked on it for as long as they said. They thought the IP was going to make this a hit, but gamers are tired the same old crap. I wish someone would ask the CEO why he said there would never be a elder scroll MMO while the whole time it was already in development.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan

       Someone forgot to keep the CEO in the loop? :)
      Need to know only! They knew the CEO would say no if they asked.
      “It is easier to ask forgiveness than to get permission”

  • http://www.facebook.com/prgx52 Pat Are Green

    Do want that bag there. :D

    Seems interesting. as you said might as well try it

  • tehixe

    I think they’ve done a piss poor job of getting the information out, primarily because all the initial information was contained in a GameInformer exclusive.  If you didn’t get the GameInformer, all you got were some really dreadful screenshots and some mumbling about hotbars being the only way they could do it.  That’s why my first reaction, and surely the first reaction of many, was revulsion.  After eventually getting the magazine, I read some very encouraging stuff.  But it was absolutely the wrong approach for this game.  I could see having a magazine exclusive for a game everyone already knows they want, i.e. Skyrim.  The slow trickle of information to the general public won’t really diminish interest.  But for TESO, as far as I’m concerned they almost doomed the game with it.  They didn’t generate the excitement they need from day 1, and as they very slowly do interviews and very slowly release additional information, the best they can expect is a tepid, “looks like it might not suck as badly as I thought it would” from most of the fans.

  • Noxdus

    People used to say things like Planetside 2 wasn’t possible. It is very possible and looks great. If Planetside 2 is possible, Skyrim online is definitely feasible if you recode it from the ground up for it. They are just saying “We don’t have good enough people to do that.” 

    • Sharuko

      PlanetSide 2 has zero PvE content, nothing.  That makes their life way easier.

      • HarmonBlues

        I dunno, those rocks and antenna towers were really racking up a lot of kills at E3. The environment had major anti-air dominance!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn

    I’m the Missouri state here, Show me! Cause I won’t believe it otherwise.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/THJWE4XEXAMAPW3CUGPFYCUDHE Prime

    Jason always spins it in a  certain way….dont like that.

  • Sharuko

    A lot of fans are cautiously optimistic both MMO players and Elder Scrolls fans.  MMOs like SWTOR and GW2 promised a lot of things but failed to deliver on pretty much most of it and that left a bitter taste in peoples mouths after their demise (and soon to be demise).  Elder Scrolls fans somehow thing TESO will be like the single player game they love but forget this is a full fledged MMO.

    At the end of the day Zenimax’s messaging failed hard.  Instead of coming out and tell people, yeah we are DAoC with great PvE content and questing they wanted to be shy about that aspect.   Matt Firor needs to come out and tell people, yeah I was behind DAoC.  Yeah I take inspiration from DAoC.  People think the game is similiar to WoW but it very very similar to DAoC.

    This game has a lot of unique features that in my opinion will change MMOs.  TESO is the MMO that people will like the more they hear and see.  I was against the concept but after looking into it this game sounds amazing.  It has pretty much what a dream MMO should have.  Mobs with no aggro table but till have dedicated healers, mounts, classes can literally do anything they want (Warriors with healing staffs), raids, battlegrounds, RvR with unique factions and races (200 people on screen), 2 person dungeons, action oriented combat (all classes have block, sneak) I can go on forever.

    The PR sucked this E3, hopefully they are better at communicating what the game is at Quakecon.  Don’t be shy or afraid, but proud of the details.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn

       Just shows you how biased you are Sharuko, GW2 hasn’t even released and yet here you are still bashing GW2 (MMO of the Year). I know you are still butt-hurt about Tera only selling 200,00 copies but that doesn’t mean you have to be an attention whore like you usually are.

      • Brosaxon

         You gotta understand, now that TERA failed he’s got to latch on the an MMO he hasn’t bashed already to fanboi on and that pretty much leaves he with just TESO even if he’s seen absolutely nothing of it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1525822174 Yvette Lessard

      I don’t know who you’ve been talking to but aside from some frustrations with BWE finale events, our entire guild and my coworkers were all very pleased with GW2 and felt like it more than met the expectations we had set for it.

      I really don’t get where you’re coming from, declaring right off the bat before we’ve even seen TESO that it’s going to be the end-all-be-all of MMOs yet a game that has a massive fan base and has gotten stellar reactions is “a huge disappointment.”

      Reality check needed here.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn

         Don’t even try man, this guy is just a resident troll. That’s all he does. Pathetic really.

    • Arkanthos

      Realy i can just laugh, you dont know anything about the game and yet you say it will change the genre. Now i just know you like to troll other games and fanboy on those you like.
      Not saying that liking game and disliking another is a bad thing.

      BUT you bash Gw2 because you dont like it, and giving factual errors and bias, then calling it criticism + saying it didn’t deliver when in fact it did. THEN you fanboy over a game that didn’t show realy anything yet and calling it a MMO changer and dream come true. That not only confirms you as a troll but also a idiot.

      Again not saying TESMMO is a wow clone/killer or that it will be a fail MMO, but to be honest i can’t realy say anything until i play the game, then i will be able to tell if its good or not. AND even then it will be my BIAS if the game is bad or good for me, not a FACT whihc you make about other games that you don’t like.

    • InvaderMig

      To be honestly I wasn’t all that impressed by GW2 and there is no way in hell it will live up to the hype.  But to claim the demise of this game is stupid.  Then again you are a troll with a vendetta so logic eludes you at every turn.  To suggest that thing game will not be profitable, which is what I gather by saying “Demise” is moronic at best.  I feel you know that, but this game won’t live up to the hype as we both know so that will be enough to fuel your nonsensical ranting, and give you enough negative to focus on, but it won’t die, and it won’t be a failure like Tera.  Again, this coming from someone who wasn’t all that impressed with the game.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/THJWE4XEXAMAPW3CUGPFYCUDHE Prime

    You know what happens whe you “throw hard core veteran fans” under the bus?

    BIOWARE – swtor
    Blizzard – pandaria…

    All losing subs fast…

    Novel idea: Super popular games started with the HARD CORE crowds… causals COME LATER. when you flip that expect high subs at first then a SWTOR bleed off….

    Casuals by definition are CASUAL DUH… and dont stick WITH you…

    • Avaloner31

       Actually the last few reports of subs by Blizzard have been pretty stable. Hate harder pls.

    • http://www.facebook.com/elias.rowan Elias Rowan

      Err.. I think the reference was toward certain press sites, not the fans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1525822174 Yvette Lessard

    Am I the only one who laughed after realizing the background video was Guild Wars 2, not TESO?

    • http://www.facebook.com/elias.rowan Elias Rowan

      Check the background reel on every TESO hit they’ve done thus far ;)

  • AkumaShogun259

    For the love of god! Tell Jason Winter to please move his mic away from his mouth so he isn’t constantly booming the speakers!

  • http://twitter.com/Nathiest Nathiest

    It’s too early to say anything about this game. Other then ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • http://www.facebook.com/elias.rowan Elias Rowan

    I don’t want Skyrim: The MMO. I want The Elder Scrolls: The MMORPG. Hopefully that’s what they’re making.

    Agreed: More = more, keep it coming.

  • http://twitter.com/SeedEve AppleSeed2148

    Everything I have seen until now makes it look like another generic Heroic Fantasy MMO.They’ve talked a lot about how awesome the game is and yet no game play video available.I will start to take it seriously after I have seen some live footage.

  • CCLemon77

    Look at Dragon’s Dogma. (Dragons and interesting combat as such)
    Look at Vanguard Saga of Heroes. (First Person Combat example possible in an MMO).
    Look at Tera and GW2. (Interesting and interactive combat)

    What,  not ‘Feasible’?   BS

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ID77ZEQTZQN52Y4E7TONBVIMZA cheeseflygon…

     They haven’t shown us anything about game-play why are they so shocked about peoples mixed views?!

  • http://twitter.com/Aoewin Maxime Beaulieu

    Well, lets face it, people who wanted dragons / FusRoDah are pretty dumb. You cannot have 1 000 000 Dovahkiin… it doesnt fit in the lore. It fit in a singleplayer game, it fit in the Skyrim lore. TEOS online will take place in a time where dragons were not there, and there is no Dovahkiin.

  • http://www.facebook.com/nick.frost.3910 Nick Frost

    They can’t make Skyrim: The MMO.
    So it sounds like they’re making Oblivion: The MMO. Classes, no dragons, blah blah blah. What I despise about it is the hotbar and WoW-esque HUD they’re talking about. Lots of buttons that do lots of things. Boring.
    The only good thing I have to say about this is that I’m excited to explore the world. And I DO hope it’s F2P.

    Now where’s the option to play as an Imperial?

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