Guild Wars 2 Dyes To Be Bound To Character, Not Account

Written by: Jason Winter (@winterinformal) | June 15, 2012 4:20 pm

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Wanting to create that perfect look for your Guild Wars 2 character? It might be harder than you think.

Guild Wars Insider’s forum miners have uncovered a few posts from ArenaNet‘s Crystin Cox, who explains that dye unlocks will be character-based and not account-based. ArenaNet’s reasoning makes a certain amount of sense:

Customized dye should be something that denotes your characters progress, like better looking, more elaborate gear. As you spend more time on your character, they grow and gain access to more customization options. If we make dyes account based, this progression will only happen on one character. We wanted character customization to remain tied to the character but we felt that one-time-use dyes discouraged players from customizing as often as they would like, that is how we arrived at the current system.

…all of which might be acceptable, except for the random nature of dye unlocks in the game. If you don’t want your burly Norn Warrior to wear pink chainmail, ArenaNet does plan to make it possible to unlock shades of dye non-randomly, using the Mystic Forge — and, of course, there’s always the Gem Shop.

This does, however, represent a reversal from the original dye blog post, written by Kristen Perry back in September 2010:

Once you unlock the color, it will be available across your entire account, not just the individual character.

With 400 or so dyes in the game, it’s pretty likely that no one will be able to unlock all dyes on all characters, which will have the benefit of making characters appear more unique, even if they’re not sporting the exact shades that everyone would like for them.

What do you think of this approach? Let us know in the comments below!

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http://twitter.com/MattstaNinja Mattsta

I saw this post after the beta weekend ended. Makes me a sad panda
http://www.facebook.com/people/Robbert-de-Wilde/1806039882 Robbert de Wilde

I think the dye system is perfect and I agree with everything that they said. It makes perfect sense. Especially since you can find dyes from loot as well I really don’t see the problem. You can choose to send dyes to your alts before you use them, so one just needs to think about it before immediately right clicking it.
- Kemwer
  
  Which is all fine and dandy, unless you want a specific dye. Then you are just screwed.
  
  I find this decision very disappointing. Maybe it will be offset by the possibility of making specific dyes using the Mystic Forge, but it still removes a lot of the flexibility from players to choose their look however they want, instead becoming hostage to a completely random system.
junommo

It’s not a deal-breaker, but it is somewhat disappointing. Just as the previous 24 hour limit was disappointing.

Just wish the dyes were at least tradeable between players, so you could at least get something back when you get duplicates. But I guess that’s one of the uses for the Mystic Forge. But if they’re promoting the social thing, creating opportunities for trading sounds pretty neat.
- http://www.facebook.com/EyvindrSVK Martin ‘Eyvindr’ Feč ヅ
  
  You say opportunities for trading as social thing, but gold farmers see opportunity to earn bajilion gold coins. With this system, you will just be happy with what you got and never worry about time you have to spend to catch them all. Because sooner or later, you will easily collect most of them. During last BWE I found like 40 colours and I only lvled one character from 1-25. Although, I will miss my ChalkBoard Black on my main character after release
  - junommo
    
    Don’t get me wrong, in the grand scheme of things it’s not a superhuge deal. It just that the account wide unlocking was one of the (many) things I thought they were being really smart about. The system is still lots better than in many other games, and I will surely play the heck out of this one.
    
    But it kinda blows if you’re looking for a specific color, especially if you get it on one character and want it on another. Hopefully the Mystic Forge will remedy that (without gem store purchases being required), so you’re not solely depending on random to get what you want.
    
    I must say though that the explanations from ANet are really starting to sound far-fetched at times. Like the one about the random loot bags for Glory, where RNG apparantly is “more exciting for players”. But I still have faith in ANet, Jon Peters expanded on his explanation saying that there still some sanity checks and alternatives to getting exactly what you want.
http://www.kaiketsu.enjin.com/ Corey Jenkins

Don’t really see an issue with this, but I guess others might. Just have to think twice about right clicking a dye as opposed to sending it to an alt.
http://www.facebook.com/EyvindrSVK Martin ‘Eyvindr’ Feč ヅ

omg. in most games, we cant even dye our gear. in this game, they give you like 20 colors immediately and 450 to get or sth like that. We’ll probably get most of the shades until you get to lvl 80 even without buying some from GemShop and people whine about this … . In Vindictus, it costs like 10 euros to dye your armor with custom color … . But people don’t whine there because they know that no one listens Here, people smell the DEVs reading the posts so let`s start the WHINE POSTS … .

OK, enough with the rant, now gimme RELEASE DATE ARENANET! See you all nonHaters ingame.
http://twitter.com/FishBaitism Fish Bait

Viva le yellow dress ;p
christopher murray

I was planning on buying some dyes but with this new policy I dont see the point.
- http://www.facebook.com/fredrik.gardsio Fredrik Fronken Gardsiö
  
  It’s been like this during both beta weekends and the stress-test, why
  are you surprised over it now?, this is not news, it’s been like this
  all the time, so why has this changed your mind?
  - S. Stadler
    
    Because ANet promised earlier that dyes would be account-bound, not character -bound. I think a lot of beta players thought it was something that was going to be fixed.
- http://twitter.com/MarkDanielNeale Mark Neale
  
  I agree.
  
  For me, and I am sure it is the same for a lot of people, if I purchase a dye colour from their cash shop, I first want to know what colour it was, and then have it available for all my toons, as well as the ones I may create in the future.I’m not going to buy it again, and again, and again, and again… heck I wouldn’t even buy it once if it is only for the one character. I see that for what it is, a straight up money grab and that turns me off from buying anything.If they leave it this way, per character, then I’ll just not buy any dyes from their shop and be happy with whatever random dyes my character discover. The problem with a decision they make like this is that, for me, if I see that, I just start presuming the entire cash shop is like that and then I don’t even bother to browse the rest of it. They lose out.But, if they make it account wide, then I will visit their shop and buy the dyes I want for my toons… and then browse for other things in the shop. It’s entirely their call. If things seem fair and not just out right money grabs, then I don’t mind going and spending the money to buy some stuff to support the game I love to play.In the end, it’s totally their decision and the decision to attempt to get more money from me via per-character things, ends up getting less money from me. Others reading this post may be totally different, but this post is about me and my money and what I spend it on based on what I read and perceive.However, do let me be real clear here: At the end of the day… I couldn’t care which way they go. The game seems fine and I am enjoying it, so will play it for sure. But I also have money which could be spent in their shop… if they do it right. Even more when I cancel my WoW subscription when the annual pass runs out. All of which I don’t mind spending to support a game I play… just not the same item multiple times.
http://twitter.com/CossiePhil Phil Latham

i think they should keep the system as it is. i change dye’s a few times untill i like what i see. now i’ll have to buy loads more. i think its there way of making more money from us. not too happy but still love the game
- snikendelarveføtter
  
  Dyes are dropping frequently from mobs and you can make any dye you want in the mystic forge, so you wont have to spend a dime to get what you want.
http://twitter.com/DanKevThom Daniel Thomassen

I’d prefer account based dyes.. it’ll be a pain to get all dyes on all chars
http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Johnson/1353890372 Michael Johnson

I think the idea is to make player pay for dyes on the cash shop.
Having them bound to account would make buying dyes pointless eventually
S. Stadler

Having this system is better than the buy-and-one-use system in the first Guild Wars, BUT it stinks to have the dyes character-bound and not account-bound as ArenaNet promised earlier in development. It’s a cash grab, no matter how they want to spin it, and they’re not fooling anyone.
- 7BitBrian
  
  Except for the fact that I can just make the Dyes with the Mystic Forge and not spend a dime on them in the cash shop. That and they drop off of just about everything in the world. I mean damn, I had 20+ additional dyes unlocked by the end of Beta.
Sklys

I can understand the new dye systems (like the account system better), but if they are going
with it this way. Then why not let us choose the colors of dye we want to buy, of couse the
free dyes you get as drops can still be any dye color.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=635690096 Thomas Dread

I really like this idea because it branches on to previous statements from AMA. It allows you to customize without the need of the gem shop.. Because it was already stated that you will be able to create dyes through the mystic forge with certain combinations.
Old Ben

> Customized dye should be something that denotes your characters
> progress, [...] As you spend more time on your character, they grow
> and gain access to more customization options. If we make dyes
> account based, this progression will only happen on one character.

Except you can mail unidentified dyes to any character, so it’s trivial to mail all of them to your level 1 alt (before “opening” them), and that character will have access to a lot more dyes than your level 80 “main”. And the same applies to dyes bought from the store (you can send them to any of your characters). So they have nothing to do with “progression”.

This is clearly just a way to make players buy dyes more often. Which is fine. But coming up with fake justifications isn’t.

I think if people keep complaining, they will make the dyes account-based (in fact, there were other posts from developers on the official forum saying that was the plan).

The main problem with the gem store dyes, though, is that you’re buying unknown dyes. And that’s the real deal-breaker for most people. When people buy something for real money, they expect to be able to choose.

If they let people choose, no one is going to be too bothered about the dyes being bound to a single character, since people are likely to want different dyes for different characters anyway. They just don’t want to be stuck with “Fiery Red” on their thief and “Shadow Gray” on their elementalist, when they want to use them precisely the other way around.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Evan-Iwerks/712235 Evan Iwerks
  
  ”Except you can mail unidentified dyes to any character, so it’s trivial
  to mail all of them to your level 1 alt (before “opening” them), and
  that character will have access to a lot more dyes than your level 80
  “main”. And the same applies to dyes bought from the store (you can send
  them to any of your characters). So they have nothing to do with
  “progression”.”
  
  It’s your progression, not the character’s progression. Just like in Guild Wars 1, spending more time or money on the game gave you access to more opportunities for dyes to customize your characters. You’ve taken actions to unlock more customization; how you choose to allocate that customization is up to you (they’re giving you the choice – how nice!). So yes, you can make accusations that the options in the game technically subvert the intention. That just speaks to the flexibility of the game, not an inherent lie in the design direction.
  
  Also, since you can buy, mail, and sell dyes after they are identified, you shouldn’t ever have the problem of giving your thief the gaudy colors, and your elementalist the dusty gray colors, if that matters to you. You must “use” the identified dye on a character to learn that dye color, at which point the dye is consumed.
  
  Character-bound dyes make plenty of sense, and has been the case for all BWE so far, so it’s not news to me. Account-bound dyes would be nice, I suppose, but hardly necessary – it’d be too tempting to make all my characters look the same at that point, which seems kinda dumb.
  - Old Ben
    
    > It’s your progression, not the character’s progression.
    
    Then there would be no reason why the dyes should bind to a single character. The whole justification given by Arena Net hinges on the fact that dyes should be bound to a single character because they are a sign of that character’s progress. As mentioned in the article and in my post above, what they said was:
    
    “Customized dye should be something that denotes your _characters_ progress”
    
    > Also, since you can buy, mail, and sell
    > dyes after they are identified
    
    Actually, I was unable to mail a couple of identified (but not yet “learned”) dyes in this BWE, but I had them since the last BWE, so maybe they changed the item IDs and the old ones were no longer valid.
    
    But assuming you will be able to trade them freely, that’s just further evidence that Arena Net’s justification makes no sense.
    
    > Account-bound dyes would be nice, I suppose,
    
    It’s not a matter of being nice. It’s a matter of being something that Arena Net specifically mentioned before they started selling the game. In fact, it’s still in the Arena Net site: “Once you unlock the color, it will be available across your entire account, not just the individual character.”
    
    > but hardly necessary – it’d be too tempting to make all my
    > characters look the same at that point, which seems kinda dumb.
    
    If you want to be dumb, that’s your right. I don’t want the game to protect me from my dumbness and I certaion
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Xeridian-Darkmoon/100000549499324 Xeridian Darkmoon
      
      Nothing in ANY BETA of ANY GAME is promised or definite till the game goes GOLD! It’s not that big of a deal… lol It just extends the life of your toon and the game a little, helps put a bit more in their pocket from the lazy folks that want to buy all their stuff with RM.
      
      Personally, considering all the choices that are well more than any MMO in existence, I think I’ll allow this and QQ less… It also makes the Forge more viable and when you do happen upon the dye you wanted as a drop or reward, you will like appreciate it that much more. It does also help the world seem more fleshed out with not having 200 Thieves running around in black ninja suits after 5min when it’s released giving a bit of flavor and mix to the world.
      
      I am for it tbh.
      - Old Ben
        
        You seem to be under the misapprehension that my post was about the availability of dyes. It wasn’t.
        
        My post was about the (clearly false) justification given by Crystin Cox.
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Lazarowitz/100000420795554 Steve Lazarowitz
      
      Arena Net also mentioned companions that are no longer in the game, energy potions that are no longer in the game, and all sorts of other things. Games ALWAYS change during development. When the necromancer came out, the death shroud ability was in place of it’s downed state. That was on the website forever, but it was wrong because they changed it.
      
      How come when they make a change that you are okay with, like not having energy potions, no one says boo, but when they make a change that you don’t agree with, that’s lying.
      
      It’s called assessing the situation and changing their mind. They don’t owe you anything. They’re making a game that’s larger and better than any AAA game I’ve ever seen, giving a chance to make specific dyes in the mystic forge and giving you dye drops in game, and you’re complaining?
      
      I like dyes too, but I understand that to remain competitive, Anet has to monetize at some point and this is a completely cosmetic way to do so.
      - Old Ben
        
        Who said I don’t agree? I couldn’t care less either way. But Crystin Cox’s justification is BS. And I do care about companies being (dis)honest about their motivations.
    - 7BitBrian
      
      Arena Net never promised anything. they put out their thoughts/ideas/and plans for dyes in 2010, in the 2 years since then those have changed as the game has developed. Get over it.
      
      You’re really making this much fuss over a statement put out 2 years ago when the site also says any and everything is subject to change before launch? Really!?
      - Old Ben
        
        I don’t think the word “promised” is in any of my posts. In fact, I wrote that the change “is fine”.
        
        Why don’t you try reading what I actually wrote instead of being very angry at some other post (which possibly only exists inside your head) ?
- Jado Cast
  
  Quote: ”This is clearly just a way to make players buy dyes more often. Which is fine. But coming up with fake justifications isn’t.”
  
  Couldn’t agree more. I said that a while back when I tried to unlock the dye at the NPC and he suggested to get my dye to visit the Gem shop and even gave me a link. Again, I feel like they make something inconvenient just to tempt people to get it instantly. This is one of the areas that worries me about the Gem shop. I don’t find this to be a big deal, but it is a slippery slope. I will not buy a dye in the auction house if it’s something I cannot choose (meaning not random) and it will have to be account wide.
  - Old Ben
    
    > I will not buy a dye in the auction house
    > if it’s something I cannot choose
    
    Auction house? Do you mean the gem shop? I don’t see a problem with buying unidentified dyes from the auction house (it would be a bit like WoW’s fortune cards). But I think most people won’t pay real money for something unknown.
    
    They could probably sell specific dyes for 10x what people will pay for unidentified ones.
    
    And I don’t think being account-bound or character-bound is a big deal. It’s unlikely I’ll want want to use the same colors on two different characters. While being account-bound would increase their perceived value (which would make more people buy them), it wouldn’t actually have a big influence on the way they are used. In the end, it would probably just make each dye more expensive (due to that increase in perceived value).
    - Jado Cast
      
      Yeah, that was a Freudian slip, as I was recently watching the D3 video about the RLAH. I did mean the Gem shop. I heard recently that the last beta made the dye’s soulbound so how can you sell them in the trading post?
      
      On my list of changes, the account wide dye would be toward the bottom, but as it is today, I will not buy random dye packs. I think they are losing potential sales based on their decision.
      
      I would rather see them open the traits back up, do a better job balancing the traits and, take the skill tiers away.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Willi-Enderle/1668850948 Willi Enderle

I would prefer the account-wide unlock of colours too.But since the new change of recieving dyes, where you recieve an unidentifyed dye instead of a seed to grow it for 24 hours, i will be fine with that too.
QSatu

People make big deal out of everything =P
http://twitter.com/cipero Matt Cipriano

I don’t really have a problem with this since I’ll be able to make any specific dye I want using the mystic forge anyway. Just put in a little work to get the mats is all.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Steve-Lazarowitz/100000420795554 Steve Lazarowitz
  
  Very much this. Dyes already drop in game really fast. You can make dyes in the mystic forge, with a recipe, any specific color you want. So what’s the difference?
Morturion

What a fuss about something that people who are colorblind won’t even notice …
*removes Troll mask*

Interesting. Personally I don’t care to much about the dye system (as long that you can paint stuff green) but if you’re the kind of person who REALLY wants all dyes on all his characters, that’s some grind. Or maybe its also gonna be available through ….

microtransaction :O
DerKomp

They also stated that each race has a different set of available starting dyes. It would be lame to do some account-wide unlocking just by creating a character of each race.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Xeridian-Darkmoon/100000549499324 Xeridian Darkmoon
  
  But I will create 1 toon of each race/profession anyway…
  
  Along with an extra slot for a reroll at any time.
Warfox Mihomiti

If this is the worst thing that happens with GW2, I can easily live with it.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002038208867 Dan Winborne

I also see this as a finacial reason too. Since you can buy dyes in the micro-store, before you could just buy what you want and then never again. This way you have to keep on buying the dye for your chars… if you want.
I actually dont mind this, seeing that this will be their continued profit for the game.
http://twitter.com/Iomegadrive1 Chris P

I think I have a good idea on how to satisfy both people. If you buy dyes from the gem store, then it is account bound, I don’t see why not. If you loot dyes it should be character bound.
Odeezee

i think we need to get some things in perspective here:

1. most games do not even let you dye armor and if they do it is one use per dye, so far 6 pieces of gear you would need that specific dye x 6.
2. yes, they changed their policy but if you think about it logically then it is much easier to see that this just adds to the whole sense of progression a character can have through the game.
3. the Mystic Forge is your friend if you have dupes or unwanted dyes, try your luck there and you will be able to get dye colors you actually want, guaranteed.
4. this game is B2P and ANet already gives us so much for just the box price. it should not be unreasonable for us to support them so that they can continue to make great content for us. content is not free and people should not feel entitled to things of a game still in beta especially when you don’t even have to spend ANY real cash to purchase the extra dyes.

between PvP reward chests (rank 9) and a couple of dye packs i was able to get around 97 dyes in 2 days, so the dyes are very easy to acquire. people are just panicking or feeling hurt because they are just getting information on the changes but not in the actual context of them playing their toons.
- http://twitter.com/Drksun William McColl
  
  do you work for them or is this your resume. They started telling us that dyes are going to be account based then changed it. Its not everyone feeling entitled its more do what you said you would do or be honest and tell us why. If its going to be a great game then people will still play regardless of dyes and I want them too put in collections like EQ2 or Rift where you see a sparkle on the ground pick it up and its 1/3 to 1/10 to get maybe unique dyes or equipment, pets or something useful. Get your head out of their lap if you dont work there and a coke and STFU.
  - Odeezee
    
    are you retarded? like for real are you? they just explained why they made the change. and the statement about the dyes being account wide was from 2010 and guess what? things change you idiot. this change actually adds value to dyes as they no longer become a throwaway commodity. do you have a hard time with basic comprehension and logic reasoning or something? all the information you claim ANet “should” have given to you is actually in the write-up under the freaking video. /facedesk
    
    the way you present your argument is as though you have a very tough time understanding basic English and facts such as, GUILD WARS 2 IS STILL IN BETA AND THINGS WILL BE SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
    - http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
      
      Well this is the negative part of showing stuff that is work in progress. Partly because people are used to only seeing this that are ‘set in stone’ already. I prefer this more open approach but it means the company has to defend every change they make.
      
      My expectations are probably different from many other people new to ANet though. From playing GW1 I expect changes, some I like others I don’t.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Xeridian-Darkmoon/100000549499324 Xeridian Darkmoon
  
  Technically we would need 18 dyes for GW2 since each piece has 3 dye zones which is again, more customization options for armor than any MMO before it.
  
  I think it gives more to those that focus on a specific toon and makes finding that color you really want, much more rewarding. Furthermore, once you unlock it, you have it on that toon forever, where as other games including GW1, you lost the dye once you changed armor.
  
  I don’t really think it’s that big of a deal and I kind of prefer it to be honest as all my other toons I play would be getting dupes. So, it’s a positive change for us and Anet.
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
    
    With the way dyes work in GW2 you can get 9(maybe more, cloth/metal/leather) different colors from using 3 different dyes since the same dye applied to different materials will have a different result. That is both a blessing and a curse. You can still look decent by using just one color without looking like you fell into a pool of paint. On the other hand it might be very frustrating if you want two piece of gear to be the same color but they are made of different material.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
  
  Does the forge function as a color mixer? Only got two dyes in BWE2 and some seeds in BWE1 so I didn’t get a chance to try.
  - Old Ben
    
    No, it will give you a new dye but it won’t be an “average” of the dyes you feed it. Dye mixing was in the game at some point in 2011, but it just made people spend hours mixing dyes, which reduced the incentive to explore (and to buy from the cash shop).
http://profile.yahoo.com/V3HR6CMXI5WF5PXOHJV4Z5XPJA Yoh

As long as I can change my colors on the fly, as it is now, I’m good.
http://twitter.com/AgeNightroad Adrian Lloyd

8 characters, 400 unique dyes per character… challenge accepted!
- http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
  
  *waves to fellow altaholic*
  We are probably the only people who won’t really be affected.
  For other people it’s going to be “oh damn I already have this color”, for us it’ll be “oh I’ll just toss it on this other character who doesn’t have it yet”
  
  But relative to GW1 this is 0 change, farm for dyes or farm for the dye making materials. Would I prefer account based dyes? Probably but I would also be fine with just having only the starter palette.
http://twitter.com/ron6405 mouse

to be honest i think they did this so they can increase there profit. Same time, i don’t blame them in 2 days of beta i got 4 free dye, 2 mystical key with cash shop item on it (and 2 more dye). the amount of money and time they invested to the game. i don’t blame them for making that decision. lets face it if they wanted dye could have been cash shop only item but they didnt.

you got to remember there isn’t a sub so they are betting on there cash shop item with 0 game breaking item. also, unlike some company i know with a sub plus pay more money to get awsome looking mount and pet soon (Pokemon pet ). they wont do that.

now before people start hating me this is just my opinion and sorry my English isnt that good
http://twitter.com/Nathiest Nathiest

I care little about dyes I’m more concern with their lack of gear in the game.
http://twitter.com/DaPhoolz Rp TheFoolz

This make me mad.

but i guess i’ll have to change my approach to the dyes too.
When it was announce that they’ll be accounts bound. I intend to unlock them all for my account.

but now. I’ll only unlock them all for one of my character. Then choose some for others.

:/ *sigh* still i’m disappointed… a little. and mad. and rage. DAMMIT! !#$!$%^&^!#!!@#$!!@@!@#
- http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
  
  Except now you can just put in an order on the Trading Post instead of wasting time in town instead of playing the game. This is assuming dyes can be sold/traded.
  - http://twitter.com/DaPhoolz Rp TheFoolz
    
    They must be! i mean They better be, or else i’ll play gw2 while i’m mad.
    - http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
      
      Actually I remember my identified dyes being account bound. I was thinking of the ingredients for making dyes being tradable. I guess all the unwanted dyes are going to be fed to Djinn. But I am pretty much a self contained economy.
Noxdus

Why are people so upset? This dye system is leagues beyond GW1′s dye system. Not only that but they greatly increased dye drop rate from mobs since the last BWE. The only thing i am actually upset about is Anet is going back on their word.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Xeridian-Darkmoon/100000549499324 Xeridian Darkmoon
  
  Nope, it’s Beta, things can and will change until release, so that’s bullshit.
Tabester

After doing the math with statistics found during the last bwe (bit.ly/KOmE3M), it could take up to 22 years to get from 399 dyes unlocked to 400 dyes unlocked at 60 dyes a day. This system is NOT sustainable in it’s current state considering that you cannot trade dyes after they have been discovered.

Their current excuse for the new dye system is that it gives a sense of character progression. With the rates the way they are, the stagnation of finding repeat after repeat will seriously take its toll on that “progression”.

One system that they mentioned on the forums was that in the future, every single dye will have a specific Mystic Forge recipe. That will make acquiring specific dyes a lot easier, but the system still has its flaws. I really hope that in the future they adjust the system to be friendlier to everyone by either allowing sales of identified dyes (I mean why not? I can see this being a great economy!) or to a lesser extent making the dyes account wide.

Apologies for the wall of text
NightLord_001

I have three problems with the new dye system.

1. Dye acquisition is totally random
2. Once we know what colour the dye is, we can’t do anything but use it.
3. Arenanet is going back on their word. No matter how trivial some may think the situation is, I . cannot trust them anymore, which is my biggest letdown in this ordeal
- Sharuko
  
  They did the same with prepurchases too, first saying 3 day headstart is only for prepurchasers and now even preorders get 3 day headstart.
  - NightLord_001
    
    I thought the official stance was that only Amazon preorders got the 3 day headstart?
    - Sharuko
      
      GameStop does too, not sure about other retailers.
      - NightLord_001
        
        really? that is terrible. I also recall hearing that a bunch of GameStop employees gave out the wrong code and/or gave friends pre-purchase codes thinking they were beta-codes. The EBgames around here thought they were beta-codes too, I had to put them straight….
      - Sharuko
        
        Not only that they get everything including the Hero’s band as well. So basically there was no point of prepurchasing.
      - 7BitBrian
        
        And you know this how? You can’t seeing as ArenaNet themselves have not said this and no one has gotten a Hero’s Band yet, they wont until launch.
        
        Are you just making stuff up now?
        
        Sounds to me like Gamestop and Amazon screwed up and gave away pre-purchase codes to pre-orders like they were beta codes. That’s their mistake, and instead of being dicks and revoking all these people’s access; ArenaNet is eating the bullet and just giving them the access.
        
        You go ahead and spin it so that evil corporation is evil though, makes it much more interesting huh?
      - Brosaxon
        
        >Are you just making stuff up now?
        
        >You go ahead and spin it so that evil >corporation is evil though, makes it
        >much more interesting huh?
        
        Wouldn’t be the first time he’s done both of those.
      - http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn
        
        Sharuko is an idiot, let him rage while Tera keeps tanking. That’s why he is so bitter about this lol.
      - Sharuko
        
        Arenanet said it is intended in the AMA, make up more excuses please. Amazon and GameStop says all preorders get the heros band. It is as simple as reading their webpage.
      - Damir Miric
        
        Really nobody cares about if people that bought a game get 3 days or not hero band or anything else.
        
        Normal people play the game for their enjoyment and dont care about this shit.
        
        Also I cant say I care about dyes either. They are cosmetic. I wont play the game just so I can be painted in pretty yellow. Thats aspsurd. Whoever plays a game so they can dye their gear should get their head check.
        
        I’m getting suspicious that you are hired by gamebreaker to bring more people to write the comments.
      - http://www.facebook.com/people/Tj-Vossos/647768691 Tj Vossos
        
        DO you have to troll everything that gamebreaker posts about guild wars grow up please
      - http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn
        
        Its not possible for him to grow up, his game is tanking so he has to come in here and grief everybody who loves this game. Sad really.
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Caswell/631559369 Jason Caswell
    
    um… Pre-order and Pre-purchase are the same thing. In both cases you’re buying (purchasing/ordering) the game prior (pre) to launch.
    - Sharuko
      
      No it wasn’t. Originally only prepurchase gave you a 3-day headstart and the hero’s band. Preorders got 1-day headstart only. They switched it now and both get it.
      - http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn
        
        Who friggin cares Sharuko you aren’t gonna be playing the game anyways right?
  - Razor4884
    
    Big deal, I was going to get the game anyway.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Xeridian-Darkmoon/100000549499324 Xeridian Darkmoon
  
  They are not going back on their word, it is BETA!!!! In any Beta of ANY GAME things CAN, MAY and WILL CHANGE at any given point or time, until the game goes GOLD!
  
  Take your n00bness QQ elsewhere please… Like maybe WoW, where blizzard just hands all the ADHD kids everything because they are too lazy or can’t see the point in working for a character you actually might CARE about!
  - NightLord_001
    
    Shut up, troll. Even though it is beta, an Arenanet employee officially stated that they have “currently have no intentions of changing this system”
    - http://www.facebook.com/people/Tj-Vossos/647768691 Tj Vossos
      
      he was saying that even though arena net said one things its beta things change so its character based now who cares
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=506728308 Julian F’n Mugnieco

The only real issue I had with the dye system is the inability to dye weapons, like in GW2. I didn’t find dye acquisition very difficult, having found 5+ in about 8hrs of gameplay this past weekend
marcus allena

wow i didnt realize how many nerds watch this stuff. I HAVE THREE PROBLEMS WITH THE NEW DYE SYSTEM> . “I cannot trust arena net now”, get a life, if you care that much about dyes you need a girlfriend.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
  
  This reminds me of that Hershey’s commercial. “Change is bad”
Sharuko

Looks like the monetization manager from Nexon that Arenanet hired a couple of months ago is already having and effect. This is going to be a train wreck unfortunately.
- 7BitBrian
  
  Yup, they made a statement about their plans for dyes 2 years ago(2010), and because they didn’t do exactly that and changed their plans and thoughts in those 2 years; that means this is totally going to be one horrible horrible game.
  
  /sarcasm
  
  Seriously bro, think about what your typing before you troll sometimes.
  - Brosaxon
    
    Leave it be man, now that TERA failed by selling barley 200k copies, all he’s got is to get on his little soap box and preach about GW2 demise with whatever BS he can come up with.
    - Sharuko
      
      When fans start comparing a $30 million dollar game (Tera) to a $100+ million dollar game (GW2). You know the $100+ million game has a lot of issues.
      - Brosaxon
        
        200k sales is low for any AAA game let alone an MMO and with a budget of $30 million TERA is indeed a triple A game.
        
        And I’m sure you didn’t even read my post so care to point out where I compared TERA with GW2.
        
        All I said was that TERA failed because I know you’re a TERA fanboy and I
        know that hurts and that you’re desperately grasping at straws to keep
        your claims of how GW2 will fail.
        
        Why would I ever need to compare both games anyway?
        
        As you said they’re in completely different leagues, you know with TERA
        being a failure right now and GW2′s destiny still unclear.
      - Sharuko
        
        Oh how you guys try to justify why people hate GW2, it gets sad sometimes. I mean I went to the offical GW forums and I felt bad for the GW2 devs it was so bad and negative. I felt so bad that I kept making constructive posts.
        
        I guess the majority of the people on the GW2 forums were also Tera fans?
        
        I agree they are on different leagues. One is a MMO (Tera) and the other is a lobby based game based on multiple maps with no seamless worlds (GW2).
        
        I understand why you guys want to compare GW2 to these smaller games because the sad truth is WoW is around the corner and honestly it blows GW2 out of the water in almost every aspect including PvP. It will be fun to see them launch around the same time.
        
        Let us not forget PS2 which has the RvR and WvW we are all looking for, actual PvP not players vs. doors. Oh and 100% F2P.
        
        And last but not least TESO, which made GW2 look like a cheap generic knockoff, compared to the pedigree of TES.
        
        GW2 is 3 years too late and would have been ok if it released around the same time as Warhammer Online.
      - Brosaxon
        
        Sure buddy, whatever let’s you sleep at night.
        
        If you go by what the official forums say then apparently nobody plays MMOs as people freak out over whatever little thing that happens and threatens to never play the game again because it’s ruined now.
        
        And as an FYI I went to the forums too, what was it that 7BitBrian said?
        
        That you make things up and like to give them your own spin to make them work for you?
        
        Yeah, sounds about right.
      - http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn
        
        30 Million Dollar game? Pfft! You give Tera too much Credit, as always.And for no good reason…? How many subs you packing? Come back and talk to me then home slice. I’ll be laughing while GW2 takes the throne and makes far more money with its current system in place.
      - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R35J5EUERGS3E6JRIQMBCDTRRY Nathan I
        
        GW2 budget is $60 mil, not $100 mil
      - Sharuko
        
        You now what explains a lot of things including the awful cut scenes in the game and the cheap voice acting. It feels like low production game quality the 60 million makes sense.
        
        What GW2 does with cut scenes is exactly how you shouldn’t design a cut scene in an MMO. You are taking people out of the world and putting them in an instance with some bad background 1v1 with an NPC. At least in SWTOR you could see other players even in cut scenes and could chat while in it.
        
        It makes the game feel heavily instanced and feels like a single player game. Taking the player out of the world in some artificial setting is bad design. I guess you have to take shortcuts when NCSoft doesn’t give you much money.
        
        And it goes to show that billion dollar companies like NCSoft care about the bottom line and not the game. A company like Bluehole is a small company almost indie status while NCSoft is EA status and still being frugal with their game.
      - Sukh Bhatti
        
        Bravo! your best work yet!
      - jason jacobson
        
        Ouch. Tera must have been a bad game for you to pull the “well it only cost $30 million to make,” card. You can always tell when someone is trying to convince them selves, not others, that a game is good or bad, justifying horrible/lazy design off of price is one of them.
        
        In all sincerity Sharuko, I would like to know why you are here, trolling GW2 videos on GBTV, instead of playing Tera? Its only been a month, you cant possibly be bored with it already, can you?
      - Sharuko
        
        Funny thing is even before launch the hype train for GW2 is literally dead, even Gary seems to have lost his passion for GW2. For the GW2 community constructive criticism means trolling which makes no sense.
        
        More and more people are coming to see that GW2 is subpar and average, exactly what I have been saying for years. The only thing the GW2 fans have to do is attack other games, the funny thing is they won’t pick on the bigger games you know MoP which will launch the same month as GW2. No, they pick on the little guys because they can’t compete with the big guys. Even though Mike O’Brien himself said he wants to compete with the big guys. Do you not have enough confidence in the game like Mike O’Brien does?
    - http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn
      
      He has to be a kid, he has to be. Nobody would be this defiant over a friggin game lol. So much hate for such a great game.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000267765226 Vegas Steve
  
  Wow, every post of Sharuko seems to go negative. The “T” word comes to mind. Yeah, it’s probably a money based decision to change. Big deal, no gamebreaker. And it is still better than the GW1 one use dyes.
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn
    
    He is just a resident Troll, His game is tanking so he has to come in here and grief people. He just opens his mouth and garbage comes out essentially.
  - Sukh Bhatti
    
    lol I am saying this as a joke but I think he might be from tera testing/PR/dev team or something, because the amount of stuff that comes out just seems unreal don’t you, I mean it seems his grammar isn’t bad so hes seems like a grown up, but the pure hatred for a game he is not going to play just seems too artificial. But I just say this for the lols
    - http://www.facebook.com/kaj.udanga Kaj Udanga
      
      *dons tin foil hat* What if Sharuko is really Gary “Griefer” Gannon trol—asjkldnalsdld
- Jay
  
  Sharuko! I missed ya man… Your comments never disappoint!
  
  Your trolling is so in depth, you even use employee names and everything, yet your comment disregards logic all the same. I really do LOL when I read most of your comments, it’s great.
  
  GW2 gives you a new reason to spend more time on each character customizing them the way you want, which I personally feel adds to the feeling of progression, but to you that means the world is ending… GW2 world anyway. ;P
  
  I for one, hope they never ban you, sir.
  - Jado Cast
    
    I think he’s really Gary Gannon just screwing with all of us. XD That would be great!
    - Jay
      
      Lmao I wouldn’t put it past the Griefer…
- http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Alvino/1094406295 John Alvino
  
  Have fun playing your “dyeing” MMO… what was it called again? World of something?
  - http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr
    
    hmmm, Gate Wars 2?
    - Odeezee
      
      …./sigh
Mightywombat32

with 400 dyes…how would theyr charaters not be “unique” with so many colors? if people deside for a color they want they will go for that color no matter what then that would leave the other colors undesired so i dont really see what it does change.
http://twitter.com/ByronLumley Byron Lumley

Character models look so bad.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Tj-Vossos/647768691 Tj Vossos
  
  look better then wows and swotors
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn
    
    Agreed
    - http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr
      
      The GW2 model look fine.
      
      The Mogu in Pandaria gave me a start, first time I saw one. Havent had that in a MMO in a really long time. I really wish I could play a Mogu.
testguy111

NAME ONE MMO WITH A BETTER DYE SYSTEM

can’t?

then stop complaining!

it’s 10000 times better than GW1 even
http://profile.yahoo.com/IJ72UJ7OKVEIGGXYAIN6NU7ZRM thomas

sometimes devs need to limit certain freedoms in order to make the game as a whole better. I for one am glad Arenanet understands this.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002866191912 Hawaiian Shirt
  
  Agree, devalues a very well constructed dye system if every player has easy access to all colors.
http://twitter.com/AnesthesiaOlogy Josh E

Honestly, what other major MMORPG even lets you color your armor to your choice? It’s impossible to be worse than nothing. Also, once you’re able to create specific colors with the Mystic Forge, the random dye drops will be irrelevant. Honestly, the system is just another part of the game that actually encourages you to experiment and expand your horizons. But, if you really want a specific color set, the option will be there. There’s really nothing to complain about here. It’s better than the GW system, and naturally the (non-existent) systems in other Mmos out there.
- http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr
  
  Rift, Warhammer, CoC, Champions, DCUO….
pandora005

If the drop rate doesnt change from what it was during the last two beta weekends I am not worried. I hardly played and still got several dyes and after a month or two any “full time character” should have most of the dyes.
http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn

I don’t see the problem here honestly, GW1 had the same dye system in place why would it be any different here. If anything they have so many dyes that it makes the whole thing more challenging and fun if you think about it. Casuals might hate it, but those that play more than others won’t feel it lol.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R35J5EUERGS3E6JRIQMBCDTRRY Nathan I

I don’t have any problems with this since dye is a purely cosmetic thing. It would be nice if dyes are character bound, but it doesn’t bother me if it’s account bound. It doesn’t even really bother me if it was purely a cash shop thing since they already said that they will use cosmetic items to make money from the cash shop. It is a reversal of what Kristin Perry originally said, but it does not go against their overall stated goals for the game.
Sharuko

Nevermind.
- InvaderMig
  
  Your best post ever!
  - Arkanthos
    
    Second that!
- http://profile.yahoo.com/SMGRLFM4UASOO7QO26HTHBLIOI Shawn
  
  Wow! You can learn to shut up from time to time! Alright!
NightLord_001

The problem here is that ArenaNet gave us certain expectations, and the product is not the second coming of christ as we thought it would be.

Also, this kinda shows on their ability to deliver their promises. Yes, it’s still beta and subject to change, but they don’t want to (even though a few tweaks would make it MUCH better)
- Jay
  
  ” the product is not the second coming of christ as we thought it would be.”
  
  Who is we? Maybe you… I had realistic expectations, and the game exceeded them. Best MMO at the moment for me, but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have flaws. If you hype yourself up beyond reason, you should only blame yourself.
  
  TBH I thought account wide Dye was a bit generous. Earning things in an MMO is half the fun to me.
  - http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr
    
    Guildcast before the two public BWE. The Gamebreaker TV hosts tried to make GW2 sound perfect in everyway. You would have figured some of the Gamebreaker TV hosts were trying to get jobs with Arenanet.
    
    Its a good MMO, but it’s not out yet and has alot of work to do.
- InvaderMig
  
  Those who thought this was the second coming are as stupid as the retards who thought TOR was going to be the second coming. Anyone who willingly exudes fanboyish zealotry is a freaking moron and deserves any heartache brought on by their unfathomably moronic unrealistic expectations. GOOD DAY SIR!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Feyd-Darkholme/100000194391744 Feyd Darkholme

Not a big deal at all… It’s a subscriptionless game, so they have to put something in the cash shop to make a profit. I’m glad that one of them is something purely cosmetic. People that are making a big deal out of this really need to chill. This is exactly the sort of thing that belongs in a cash shop. Not to mention that you can still get it as loot. Non-issue…
http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Alvino/1094406295 John Alvino

I have no issue with this system, the dyes you get for the seeds and dye packs are random anyway and if you want a specific dye colour (even the rare ones) you can buy them off the trading post anyway from people that may have it already.
- http://www.facebook.com/omartellers Omar-Gabriel Tellers
  
  Incidentilly, you can no longer trade dyes, they are now auto-account bound.
  - Arkanthos
    
    Which again is all subject to change till release, mind you:)
  - Jado Cast
    
    Really? That sux
http://twitter.com/crocodilius ryan phillips

i hope this game doesn’t fail for Gamebreaker’s sake. 10 articles a day about GW2…we, the public, understand you like the game, but we also know it’s nothing supermegaspecialawesome.
- http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr
  
  That’s okay, did you miss when it was 10 articles a day about Rift, then 10 articles a day about SWTOR. Now it’s 10 articles a day about GW2. Next it will be 10 articles a day about the Rift expansion (which actually looks good). After that 10 articles a day about TESO.
- http://www.kaiketsu.enjin.com/ Corey Jenkins
  
  I mean GW2 is a hot topic right now hence the 119 comments, and with them being a news site..their job is to post about the hot topics.
Damir Miric

f colors gief release date .. right now I’m pissed off with anet because they cant even say like q3 or q4 because I could spend my time playing tera or something while they get the game finished but if its going to come out in q3 than I wouldnt spend my money on tera.
- pandora005
  
  You might want to put a few more skillpoints into that “patience” skill OR the “thinking” one, because you would probably be more pissed if the game was only halfway done at release. We get far too much of that from other games and even new versions of Windows and in any case its a game to be played for a loooooooonnnnnggg time and not “played through in a week and then put in a corner”.
  - Damir Miric
    
    I said I wanted to know a release date not them to release. You should put some skill points in ‘reading’.
    - pandora005
      
      The release date is obviously “when its done” and since they still have many things to do it cant be fixed on. Anyone who participated in the BWEs and who noticed the totally new trait system would recognize that there is still a lot to be done. There is also the “problem” of balancing higher level PvE content, because so far those zones werent in the game. It is pretty clear that this means the game wont be coming out in “q3″ and even the end of “q4″ is doubtful.
      I think we are back to “putting points into patience”.
      - Damir Miric
        
        Problem is I’m writing something and you are interpreting with your own mind instead of reading what it says. I dont care if the game comes in 2016 as long as I know it, so I can try out Tera or something. If I was to play Tera for 2 months its not worth it. But if I knew I have at least 4 or 5 months I would buy it.
        
        See read carefuly. I’m not attacking anyone or nagging or anything.
        
        “when its done” means nothing its not information anyone could use to decide anything.
  - http://www.facebook.com/mert.matthews.3 Mert Matthews
    
    You sir, have summed up swtor’s main problem in a nutshell without realising , i salute you
http://twitter.com/SeedEve AppleSeed2148

That’s not an issue for me,I think some are making a lot out of nothing and besides the game is Buy2Play for Christ sake.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Dejagg-Katana/100000896860860 Dejagg Katana

This isn’t news I found out about this change after BWE1 and tested it out during the stress test they did last month why do an article about it now? Personally I think it sucks collecting 400 dyes is not something I’d want to do more than once especially since most of them will come from the cash shop (7 dyes for 200 gems is a pretty sweet deal). Most likely if this stays this way I will just end up shipping all the dyes I get to my main character and giving only doubles to my alts.
- tehixe
  
  Seems like a bad system for completionists. I think they’ve added that many dyes so there will be tons of combinations so most every character will look a little different. They didn’t add them expecting that people would make it their goal to collect them all. The only thing worse than collecting 400 dyes would be, IMO, picking a color scheme from among 400 possible colors.
http://www.facebook.com/tworle00 Tommy Worley

I wonder if the dyes in the cash shop will be account based and if you will be able to buy all 400 at once?
http://www.facebook.com/mert.matthews.3 Mert Matthews

Well its just the colors not the armor itself also if you intend to play a single character such as myself it is even less of a problem but only potential problem will be if you can unlock dyes which are cannot be unlocked otherwise and on my personal view i won’t like it if you can buy all the colors and shades from gem shop so you know we will have something to work for
Revanhavoc

GW2 hits get huge traffic if I was a Gamebreaker writer I would want to get a lockdown on the fanbase too, great job guys!

This hit was supposed to remind of how I’m going to make a character that looks like Miranda Kerr in GW2 but now all I can think about is Mike S in a dress.

And I was supposed to get some work done today…
http://twitter.com/nemesisnick33 nick

more unique my arse cant make money off account bound dyes not that hard of a business decision. 1st world problems “my dyes in GW2 arent account bound QQ /wrist”
- Odeezee
  
  people forget that ALL dyes can be acquired in-game without spending a dime on the cash-shop; reward chests, random drops & the mystic forge. people really need to stop, take a deep breath and actually think for a change instead of glazing over info and raging without cause. /sigh
  - pandora005
    
    People want everything for free … and have no patience. They are basically spoiled 3-year-olds which throw a tantrum when they dont get what they want but dont deserve.
James Rylett

Personally I think the dye system, from what I’ve experienced through Beta Weekends will work perfectly fine, Okay sure! if you’re playing an Alt, and you’ve spent the last 3 weeks on your favourite character, which has some amazing dye colours, creating a brilliant colour scheme, the new character is going to be bland and a little tasteless, to start with, but the rate of Dye drops isn’t that bad, I spent a lot of my time exploring more so than out and out levelling, and even then, the characters I tried out, all came across a good number of Dye colours, before level 10, However, some of those dye names are a little off putting “Creamsicle” … I don’t know about you, but that’s not a colour I’d be proud to announce I just found.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
  
  What do you have against vanilla ice cream wrapped in a shell of delicious artificially flavored ice?!
  - http://www.facebook.com/people/Craig-Hooker/13619430 Craig Hooker
    
    Creamsicle might make a good frozen treat, but it’s a fairly odd colour name.
    - http://profile.yahoo.com/ITHF7XKYGVXFAPCDMDJTKHLBBU Lian Wan
      
      Well I am thinking of a creamy orange color.
tehixe

I think the dye system is sweet. I like how I unlock uncommon and rare colors and can freely use them to customize each part of my gear, and then when I wear new gear it keeps my color scheme. It sort of makes up for something that I like less: all the character costumes are the same, at least at early levels. An elementalist wears the same outfit as a necromancer as a mesmer. At least I can make sure my necro is always green and my mesmer is always purple. Although I foresee in PvP that people will end up making purple Eles and green mesmers to mess with people. The lack of distinctive class-based appearances seems like it could be a problem there.
- http://www.facebook.com/michael.lauria.35 Michael Lauria
  
  I totally agree with your views on how cool the coloring system is but I dont agree that the lack of distinct class based appearance will be a problem at least color-wise. Unless a Mesmer can start running around with a bunch of undead minions. Basically the professions will be easy to tell apart simply from what they do, and this will be easy to read by any seasoned Pvper.
Arkanthos

Didn’t you just reversed your comment, first you say big bugget games have issues, now you say otherwise.
Arkanthos

What lack of gear, there was tons of gear in the BWE?
Victoria collon

if they keep the droprate like in BWE 2 its ok – i just don’t want to have to unlock random dyes through gem-shop….
Eric Hathaway

So long as the unused dye is account bound, everything else will be fine. Even if, once used, the dye is character bound, if the unused dyes can be sent to whichever character you choose, I don’t see any massive issue.
If they keep it completely random, and I end up getting the same color ten times on a character that has that color, and never once see it drop for a character that I want it for, I will be upset and will have harsh words with ANet lol
Mystique60

Honestly I don’t see an issue with dyes being character based. Actually I think it should be character based. this is still way better than the dye system in the original GW. not even close to being earth shattering
MosesZD

There is no ‘issue.’ There are three changes. 1. Is to make it by character, not account. 2. Now you can unlock as many dyes per day as you find, not just one as it was in old way. In BWE2 I unlocked 7 dyes in one day, not just one dye in one day. 3. They’re adding the power to make your own dye in the mystic forge so won’t have to rely on the RNG to give you that one dye you have been looking for the past six months…

It’s just cry babies crying at a minor, and net-beneficial to them, change.
http://www.facebook.com/talitha.kalago Talitha Kalago

This punishes players who like to have lot of alts and who
obsess and play with dyes a lot. At the risk of sounding sexist, that’s
predominantly going to be their female players. Yes, I’m a female and yes I
change amour dyes several times a day when playing the betas. It delights me to
do so, only this change to the dye system sours the whole experience.

It feels like a push to make people spend more in the gem
store on dye packs. However the sort of people who are doing that (such as me)
are also spending money in the gem store getting more character slots for our
many, many alts.

Couldn’t we at least have a, say, $10 unlock item in the gem
store that lets dye be account wide? Please?

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