Star Wars The Old Republic, World Of Warcraft Dominate Facebook

Written by: (@winterinformal) | May 21, 2012 4:18 pm

39 Comments

Guild Wars 2 has passed 500,000 Likes on Facebook.

To celebrate, ArenaNet revealed a new piece of concept art, something the company’s done for every 10,000 new Likes from 460,000 on.

But does this campaign – or the number of Facebook Likes in general – tell us anything about how a game is doing?

Take a game like Star Wars: The Old Republic, which has gone down from 2 million active subscriptions to 1.7 million to 1.3 million. But that doesn’t just mean that 700,000 people quit playing. Some larger number quit, but it’s certain that some other number started a subscription, partially offsetting those losses.

Tracking social media traffic, whether Likes on Facebook, Twitter followers, or whatever, won’t tell us exactly how many players a game has, but it can be a decent indicator of whether a game is drawing in new people – even if older players are leaving the product.

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Here are the top 15 MMO games, ranked by their increase in Facebook likes over the past three months:

World of Warcraft: 405,992
Star Wars: The Old Republic: 353,520
Fiesta Online
: 252,169
Guild Wars 2: 236,434
Runescape
: 140,476

AdventureQuest Worlds: 113,888
The Secret World
: 79,754
MapleStory
: 54,566
DC Universe Online
: 47,864
Lineage 2
: 42,701

Runes of Magic: 41,387
Wakfu
: 34,899
Aion
: 32,845
TERA
: 30,467
Wizard101
: 29,559

The top five is what you’d expect – mostly. WoW, SWTOR, and Runescape are huge ongoing games, Guild Wars 2 has garnered a lot of attention with its recent betas, and… Fiesta Online?

Yes, Outspark’s casual MMO has attracted the third-most new people to its Facebook page since February. Overall, it has the fifth-most FB Likes, trailing only WoW, SWTOR, Runescape, and MapleStory.

The rest of the list contains several games that have recently been in the news for launching (Wakfu, TERA), entering beta (TSW) or going free-to-play (Aion, Lineage 2).

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And then there’s DC Universe Online, which inspired the conversation that led to this post. Earlier this week, I was talking with GAMEBREAKER staff about DCUO‘s strong Facebook following, to which the response was, “Yes, but they probably all jumped on when it launched and have since left.”

This would seem to prove otherwise. To put it into perspective, DCUO has gained more Facebook Likes in the past three months than Age of Conan has altogether. So it’s hardly the case that the game just attracted people at launch and then vanished.

Not all of those 47,864 new Likes represent new players, but some of them must, and there’s little reason to think that — if we could look at new player numbers for all MMOs over the past three months — DCUO wouldn’t be in or around the top 10.

For unreleased or recently released games like Guild Wars 2 and TERA, these numbers give us a decent look at how well the game is being publicized and how many people are planning to try it out.

And what about SWTOR? When it comes down to it, all that matters are the subscriptions. But getting 100,000 to 200,000 new people interested – if not outright playing – every month is still a positive sign, even if not all are currently subscribing or some that are inevitably unsubscribe.

If those numbers level out or actually start dropping – then I’d be worried.

Star Wars The Old Republic, World Of Warcraft Dominate Facebook

  • http://www.facebook.com/AMGitsMikey Mike Canning

    I feel like, since I don’t play the game anymore but liked it on FB, I should unlike it because I’m being counted to justify some kinda newsworthy drama….

    • Jesse Wan

      While watching this video, I unliked SWTOR on FB.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Rowe/753456628 Andrew Rowe

    SWTOR is going down the shitter, on my server there is 50 people on fleet compared to 200 a month ago

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrislawrence7 Christopher Lawrence

    Likes on facebook… seriously? This is what they are using to justify the idea that SW:TOR isn’t dying? lol… Gamebreaker are some of the biggest trolls alive.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ryan-Hamilton/1150725720 Ryan Hamilton

    It’s not like it’s a popular IP or anything right?

    • http://twitter.com/Jayeluu Jason Winter

      That’s why Fiesta Online’s moving up, too.

      • snikendelarveføtter

        fiesta online is moving up because kids are obsessed with “likes”.

  • adam sandoval

    imo check out gw2 twitter because that’s where they spend more time

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Rowe/753456628 Andrew Rowe

    And that picture makes you want to slap him.

    • pc11

      I have that hurge everytime i see that picture. He made a shit game out of a great IP and dares to put up that arrogant look like he is the shit… *BITCHSLAP*

  • http://www.facebook.com/chrislawrence7 Christopher Lawrence

    I think someone should make a new Troll meme with a caricature of Jason Winter’s face. And correlate it to anything troll-worthy in the mmo genre. 

    • http://twitter.com/jiffah Jiffah

       Troll, really? We have an article that relates to marketing and communication which is an important side of the industry and you can’t see it for what it is. What would you prefer, that they only relay patch notes and cosplay pictures?

      • MMO_Doubter

         A serious gaming site should be ridiculing such an absurd PR scheme, not legitimizing it.

        So, yes, COVER it, but don’t enable or defend it.

        Does GBTV serve the players or the companies? The answer is clear to me.

        MMOFringe

  • jayremy

    I think the internet is just being used more with time, with it MMOs are growing and everything (computer) networking related. People keep thinking and have traditionally though that only ‘x’ amount of players play MMOs and that will stay stagnant and never change. Heck, MMOs have only been big for like the past 6 years, before then they weren’t really popular to console games, nor really advances the years prior.

    It’s just blatantly obviously when you you hear of a demographic of people above age 60 “playing video games (MMOs)” with their family or friends. I have heard numerous times of older people who have never picked up on video games before stating to now. It’s obvious that more people growing up today will pick up games as a child than before. I mean we seriously have to consider video games are pretty much the newest medium of entertainment still so I only see it growing in time as it has.

    I don’t think we ever really need to worry about the stigma of when MMOs lose players = dead game. With SWTOR they did invest a huge amount and the title is under performing in expectations but it is still turning a profit.

  • Old Ben

    So, if only 406k people “like” WoW, does that mean 9.9M of the people who (supposedly) play it actually hate it?

    “How many people clicked a button on a 3rd party site in the last three months” is not exactly a very reliable or relevant metric.

    Even the total number of subscribers says very little about the game’s impression on players (ex., if a game loses 50% of its player base every year but gains those 50% back in new players, it might seem that it’s keeping a steady player base when in fact it’s a terrible game with great advertising – or maybe it has great starting quests and goes downhill after a month or two).

    • http://twitter.com/Luke_Malcolm Luke Malcolm

      actually the WoWs main Facebook page has 2.8 Mill that like it, they dont need 10.2 mill to like it on facebook not everyone has it. 

      • Old Ben

        The article is about “likes in the last three months”. And I was being sarcastic, as I believe the second paragraph made pretty clear.

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      >So, if only 406k people “liked” WoW, does that mean 9.9M of the people who >(supposedly) play it actually hate it?

      Huh? Of the 10.2m WoW subscribers, selecting like in Facebook means WoW stories will appear on their Wall (timeline) and news feed.  I guess while you could “dislike” Blizzard and WoW, you could still like it on Facebook to follow the stories.

      You would dislike something on Facebook if you no longer want the stories.

      All Facebook provides is a metric of interest in the company or game. Doesn’t matter if you really like the company or game, that you just have an interest in good or bad news.

      • Old Ben

        If you had read the second paragraph before replying to the first, I think it would have been clear that that sentence was meant to be sarcastic…

  • Kicknpups

    Holy Speculation BATMAN!!! 

  • http://twitter.com/moosewithaj john nuyen

    WOOT Maple story FTW

  • MMO_Doubter

    More marketing smoke and mirrors to make failing MMOs seem better off than they actually are.

    FACEBOOK likes? Get serious.

  • Cyclops07

    To say that FB likes don’t make a bit of difference in whether things are going well or not for your game goes without saying. 

  • Sklys

    If you like a game you will play it. If you dont like a game you will not play it.
    No matter what polls say about a game or folks say about a game.
    We are all humans (til someone proves different) and have our likes/dislikes in games

  • RockerDC3

    1. Obvious troll is obvious
    2. Social marketing ignorance galore

    Likes are a metric of people who are listening/watching and will always reflect the casual numbers – passive interest. The other metrics only available to page owners and their marketing firms are much more relevant, such as “People Talking About”, which reflects active interest.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jonathan-Reyna/1830988318 Jonathan Reyna

       Yeah if anything I think EvE should’ve at least been mentioned its consistently gaining subs every year. Alot of people, especially those who dont even play the game, still follow EvE just because its THAT interesting what CCP does and the amazing updates they put out.

      • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

        Does seem like the 1m subscribers is the demacation between MMOs.  You have some great MMOs below 1m subscribers and very large, popular MMOs above 1m subs. 

  • pc11

    Next SWTOR patch will already come with server transfers. After that hits live some servers will be completly EMPTY and ready to be shut down. Facebook likes? really? really Jason really?

  • QSatu

    I didn’t “like” GW2 b/c I don’t like the push on social media by ANet. Using twitter as the main medium to communicate during BWE is just stupid.

    • Arkanthos

      You do realize they were on the forums?, the problem was in the first BWE they crashed the forum (to many ppl) so they didn’t have anything else then twitter and facebook. They have probably fixed that for the next one, we will see. But defo the main communications will be on the forum for future betas.

  • MMO_Doubter

    Your over-the-top boosting of GW2 has hurt your rep, GBTV, and this is going to make you a target of ridicule.

    Have you NO shame left?

    MMOFringe

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      They did the same thing for Rift.  Should be intersting to see how long they can keep a show going after it’s release.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1260066056 Steven Diaz

    Likes?  Really?  I “like” plenty of MMOs that I don’t play.  I keep them on my feeds so I can keep up with what’s going on in the MMO world.  Most of my friends do the same.  If you want to know if a game is really succeeding or failing, play and see how the world feels.  If it feels empty, lonely and boring, chances are that other new comers will feel similarly.  I love gamebreaker and I respect if very much, I don’t want to see you heading down this path.  You guys don’t have to put of a constant flow of content so long as when you do put out content, it’s good.  I don’t know ANYONE that plays SWTOR anymore.  My page had over 20 people playing it, all unsubbed and haven’t gone back.  That tells me that the game isn’t very appealing and isn’t healthy.  THAT is what matters to me.  Facebook likes?  Oh Jesus…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=862175353 Gavin Morgan

    Likes on FB are one thing, actually sticking with the mmo is something different entirely. I resubbed for 1.2, but have now gone back to my beloved Lotro. Swtor apart from storytelling is as boring as hell and feels linear.. Lotro on the other hand is a huge/wide open world.

  • Damir Miric

    I was about to say that facebook likes are not relevant to judging how good game is doing at all but soooooo many people said it before me so it seems obsolete now. I was laughing my head of at the end of this video.

    • MMO_Doubter

      Quite so. It should have been published on April 1st. It is THAT ridiculous.

  • http://twitter.com/jiffah Jiffah

    Interesting data, thank you for the article. It’s a side of the industry rarely talked about and I’m glad GBTV explores some of these topics. I actually like Jason Winter, his articles are more closely related to MMOs than the other writers in my opinion and he covers different games which is highly refreshing. On the topic I’d say that I may not still play all the games I like on FB, but I keep them in my feed because I’m still interested in the game. This also means I may go back to it at a certain point. These game companies have marketing departements and they do talk about that stuff…so anyone thinking this subject is unworthy of a gaming news site makes me sad. 

  • http://twitter.com/Luke_Malcolm Luke Malcolm

    Well the Warcraft Facebook page has 2,8 Mill likes and SWTOR has 2 Mill likes on there main facebook page. I don’t think facebook likes actually means anything though not everyone has facebook :) .                                                

  • pandora005

    Since there is no way to “un-like” on Facebook the likes dont mean anything. 

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