Mists of Pandaria sales top 2.7m, WoW subscriber numbers return to 10m


Written by: (@oliviadgrace) | October 4, 2012 9:52 am

Mists of Pandaria sales top 2.7m, WoW subscriber numbers return to 10m
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Activision Blizzard released a press statement today regarding a recent hot topic: Mists of Pandaria sales.

While not reaching the lofty heights of former expansions, Mists of Pandaria sold 2.7 million copies in its first week, prior to its release in China on October 2nd. In addition to this, the global subscriber base of World of Warcraft is reported to have returned to over 10 million, with growth said to be occurring over all major regions.

It will be interesting to monitor the impact of the Chinese release, given that one of Blizzard’s goals with Mists of Pandaria was greater penetration into the Chinese markets. However, overall, given the stiff competition from big titles such as Guild Wars 2 and many others, this is a great result for Blizzard, although not quite reaching the sales levels of earlier expansions. Given, also, that the majority of Blizzard’s income comes from subscriptions, rather than from initial sales, the hike in subscriber numbers will be a welcome boost to Blizzard’s stock.

It seems, from our past reports at GAMEBREAKER on analysts’ sales projections, that Lazard may have fallen somewhat short, although it would be interesting to see if their box sales number of 700,000 holds water, and, of course, Lazard were looking at sales within the first days rather than one week. Brean Murray’s numbers seem to have greater potential, if one assumes that their 3rd Quarter of 2012 is in fact a fiscal quarter rather than a calendar quarter. They were also correct in predicting a subscriber rise, if a little pessimistic in numbers.

The bottom line is that this is a solid first week’s sales, and that Blizzard will likely hope for even better numbers following the Chinese launch. It would be interesting to look at these sales figures as a percentage of the playerbase. Cataclysm’s sales of 3.3 million, although in the first 24 hours of release, were roughly a 27.5% uptake on the total player base of 12 million, while Mists of Pandaria’s 2.7 million first week sales indicate approximately a 29.5 % uptake based on a subscriber base of 9.1 million (subscriber numbers based on battle.net and Brean Murray’s recent figures). Of course, it should be noted that these sales compare one-day sales to one-week sales, but nonetheless, an encouraging start for the latest expansion.


  • http://twitter.com/NuDimon Ruben HD Hanssen

    Wait growt after just releasing an expansion? Unheard of! :p

  • http://www.facebook.com/krister.holmberg Krister Holmberg

    Not bad but Cataclysm sold 3.3M in the first day so this one has sold less in a week than Cataclysm did in a single day. This also means that the Chinese number now wastly dwarf the western playerbase and that Blizzard insists on calling them “subscriptions” anyway..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/YSVAPKVBUPTX6YS3W2DLPOBNN4 AlokP

      “Mists of Pandaria sold 2.7 million copies in its first week, prior to its release in China on October 2nd.”
      It’s literally the 2nd sentence in the article. Troll harder.

  • http://twitter.com/inkthedink INKS

    Not only did it take a week to still fall short of Cata (and so far MOP is a better expansion–opinion here) sales, but they sell less than 3mil copies to 10mil players. I always wondered why 7mil people dont play the new expansion. While that total number of copies will increase when it’s released in china it still wont be 10mil, meaning there are several million not playing MOP but still pay a monthy fee?

    • Shinz21

      The subscriber numbers can be a little misleading due to the difference in subscriptions in China and the use of internet cafes there. Here is the definition from a blizzard EU press release. 

      ‘World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition
      World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.’  

    • Morturion

       It means that there are over 7 million accounts used for goldfarming and goldselling I guess … or a little less, considering multiboxers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=507687881 Kyle Schmelzer

    Looks like Wow is really dying after all. Give it 3 months and half the people who resubbed just to check out the Xpac will have quit. Playing Pokemon WoW style can only hold ur attention so long.

    • http://twitter.com/Avr33 avery #

      your definition of “dying” is funny

    • http://twitter.com/Zedris Zedris

      u really need to open a dictionary and look at the definition of dying because i don’t think u know what it is

    • Spammerbam

       Hmm, I’m not sure about that. WoW is still going pretty strong.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WZ324KCWGCMJENR2ZFFTCK3QP4 Blaze

       i give kyle 2 more weeks and then he will buy the game

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jared-Henninge/1046109194 Jared Henninge

        I’d rather him not. Having this guy in my game is going to somehow ruin my experience, regardless of server or faction affiliation.

  • Thomas Monahan

    It’s good to see Blizzard to release those numbers. This will help remove the guessing.

    2.7 million is good and the 10 million sub is also good.

    One question will be around, will players play through the content and then un sub in say 5-6 months. Will Blizzard release more content patches faster and will these future patches be able to satisfy the player base.

    I’m also wondering if these 2,7 million who bought it,..are these all former subbed WoW players? How many new players who never played WoW actually got the game and are totally new to the WoW universe.

    This is asked because if they are bringing in few to no real numbers in new player and are actually just bringing back returning players,.that’s actually not good for the long haul.

  • Krzysztof Kotarba

    I don’t understand… 2.7 mil MoP and 10 mil sub base of WoW, so what the hell 7.3 mil people are doing? Do they count me as a subscriber to WoW aswell or trial acc??

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/WTCYJZFEYSBE2CMVSK2O5GIOZE Stillwater

       believe it or not the majority of players are way..way..way behind with content..those 7 mil are still in cata content

    • http://www.facebook.com/miljan.stanojevic.503 Miljan Stanojevic

      its wierd…

    • Sharuko

      China doesn’t pay for expansions, they get it for free.  They usually don’t pay for any game or MMO.  Also, 2.7 represents one week sales.  Generally the figure is 4-5 million during the first month.
      Not everyone buys the game on launch.

    • http://twitter.com/willbendr William Bender

      Remember that some people are still held hostage by the annual pass until the 21st of this month.  That would account for some of the subscriber numbers that have not purchased MoP.

      (Yes, I am aware that it is possible to get out of the annual pass but some people are still honorable and don’t think it’s worth it to rescind on their commitment.)

      • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

        The percentages are better for Mists of Pandaria than for Cata, so the 1.5m annual pass holders argument is a non-starter. 

  • Josh Rosenvelt

    First off these are great numbers for blizzard, I predicted 2.1-2.5 mil in the 1st 24 hrs and they probably got a number between that in the 1st 24 hrs.

    Alright to answer peoples questions regarding why only 2.7mil players picked up MoP out of 10 million subs, it’s because they not allowed to sell expansions in Chinas as the way there subs work is by buying time at internet cafes. So blizzard counts any active playtime in china where a player has played in the last 30 days as a sub.

    Also Chinese subs although make up around 60% of the playerbase only bring in less then 10% of the revenue, but it’s great to have them as it does inflate sub numbers and makes the game look very healthy.

    The maximum number of copies MoP can sell is between 4-4.5 million with the current 10million playerbase.

    Also this is the first time China has basically had an expansion release at the same time (1 week Later) as the west, so I believe the addition 800 000 subs came from China in prep of the expansion otherwise the initial sale figures for mop would of been a lot higher like cata had.

    With that being said, with all the negativity from hardcore players and the 9.2 million subs at end of Q2 blizzard can only be happy with these numbers and the fact that they probably have the most loyal fanbase in the gaming world, esp after Diablo 3 and Cata people still can’t stay away from there products.

  • Sharuko

    The is hilarious, 2.7 million during the first week.  Probably sell 5 million during the first month.  Haters might be having a bad day.  What amazing numbers despite there being “competition”.  Having played MoP I think it is easily better than WotLK and Cata and might be good competition for Burning Crusade.

    The subscription numbers don’t even take into account MoP which hasn’t been released in China.  China won’t affect box sales as they don’t pay for expansions or any MMO for that matter, they get it for free.People are still willing to pay subscriptions to good games.  And bad games that are B2P and F2P will fail.

    All this good news while GW2 is pretty much on its death bed.  Ouch.

    • Opensourcebill

      Death bed? Really? You base this on what exactly?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dustin-Brookens/100003510262900 Dustin Brookens

      Guildwars 2 was never a challenger anyway. Nothing is.

    • Jant0n

      >”Haters might be having a bad day.”
          interesting that you can see irrationality in others, but not in yourself.

      >”All this good news while GW2 is pretty much on its death bed. Ouch.”
          Do you have any actual proof of this?

    • Spammerbam

      “Haters might be having a bad day… All this good news while GW2 is pretty much on its death bed.  Ouch.”

      Wait, what? The only “hater” here is you, tbh. This is positive news for WoW and I personally think it’s great. Anet never said they were going to compete with WoW in the first place either. It is its own game. So what you’re saying here makes you sound hypocritical and a failure.

      “And bad games that are B2P and F2P will fail.”
      I like how you specifically said “bad games”, obviously referring to GW2, because you know pretty well that LoL is F2P and it’s actually beating WoW, if not any lower.
      The only competition WoW will have is another P2P game, because the general population won’t be spending their money on 2 subs at once. The GW franchise avoids this by being B2P. So if you’re saying the whole GW franchise being B2P is a fail, then GW2 wouldn’t even exist. Since WoW is P2P and GW2 is B2P, is there a conflict in playing both?

      Oh and btw, GW2 is still going strong with all servers being at full and high population, despite the fact that Anet is still working on increasing server capacity.

      I guess high pop means being on the death bed =

      • Sharuko

        Companies can tailor what “High” is. I played on Fatman in SWTOR and was labeled “Very High” but there were barely 50 people on the Fleet. I would be shocked if GW2 even had 100k players right now.  It will eventually settle to a cute little population of about 30-50k players just like GW1.  And you know, people will claim it is “doing well”.

        At the end of the day GW2 will be a non-factor not even worth mentioning.  The same breath as Warhammer Online and Aion.  The so called “WoW killers” that is in the dustbin of MMO history. In a couple of weeks, GW2 won’t even be worth mentioning.

        I find it funny the GW2 community trashed on all MMOs including WoW for months if not years. Yet the game failed in 2 weeks. WoW should give credit to GW2, it is the WoW reviver. People realized after playing GW2 how good WoW actually was.

        • Spammerbam

          Lol, cool story. Your comeback and hate for GW2 is hilarious.

          Just like how WoW and Tera can tailor their “high” population, too, right?
          Just like how you claim Tera it is “doing well”. No one even mentions about Tera anymore, including you; now you’re hopping over to the WoW boat, as if that’s any surprise.
          What’s great about statistics is that you can lie and get away with it, until someone proves you wrong. There’s no point and reason for Anet to make things up as their game is only a B2P. So what do they have to lose?

          If GW2 failed in 2 weeks, then I guess vanilla WoW failed in 1 week? Since WoW’s initial launch was so bad. And yes, thanks to GW2, many people realize how stagnant WoW really is. Though I would agree that WoW is a great game itself, nothing has changed.

          New Contents? Yes, loads of contents coming to both games in the near future. So what’s all this hate about people playing both games?

          I like how you skillfully ignore my question in the previous post.

    • St_Draco

      Oh man that Sharuko hate, gotta love it.  I thought something bad might have happened to you since I didn’t see you posting your GW2 hate all over GameBreaker.

      So lets compare apples shall we:

      WoW XPac Sales:

      Burning Crusade – 2.4M 1st Day, 3.5M 1st Month
      Wrath of the Lich King – 2.8M 1st Day, 4M 1st Month
      Cataclysm – 3.3M 1st Day, 4.7M 1st Month
      Mists of Pandaria – no 1st Day numbers, 2.7M 1st Week

      GW2 Sales: 1M pre-purchased, 2M+ 2nd Week*, no numbers for 1st Month yet.
      *digital sales were halted in the 1st Week.

      SWTOR Sales: est 1M+ 1st Day, 2M+ 1st Month

      Looking at things as they are MoP looks to maybe do as well as WotL in terms of sales, which isn’t bad but then again WotL was riding an upward trend and MoP is riding a downward one.

      Additionally, it would seem that GW2 is looking to do as well as MoP in terms of sales. 

      SWTOR had good launch numbers, but we all know how that is turning out.  Interestingly enough their numbers are similar to GW2 and MoP initial numbers.

      For a troll like you I probably gave you some more ammunition, but then you make me laugh with your ridiculousness.  Oh and I tried to find Tera numbers but well, like its player base, they can’t be found.

      • Spammerbam

         ”Oh and I tried to find Tera numbers but well, like its player base, they can’t be found.”

        LOL! Ouch.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=613400106 Francois Brisson

        So what you’re saying is MoP is getting more then 2x the sales of GW2. Interesting. Also GW2 numbers probably will end up around 3 million while MoP sales will probably end up over 4 million.  

    • jugyfant

      rofl does this guy have a channel or something i could subscribe to? his nonsensical dribble is absolutely hilarious and always makes my day.

  • http://www.facebook.com/miljan.stanojevic.503 Miljan Stanojevic

     2.7 mil playing MoP 10mil subs ???? 7.3 mil playing …what????

    • pc11

      Still playing previous expansions BIG DUH! Also 7 million alone should be the Asian subscribers where MOP only started to sell 2 days ago.

      People keep forgetting that around 70% of WOW subscribers are in Asia not America or Europe.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=613400106 Francois Brisson

      7.3 million people playing Cata / TLK / TBC / Vanilla. 

  • jayremy

    WoW simply got to be a boring grindfest… Of course people are going to drop off, nothing is really changing by any intriguing drastic measures. Combat and group dynamics unchanging, the only thing that has kept people playing is the “social aspect” and all the social ties people made or RP.

    The last years of me playing the game I felt I was paying a premium to get increasingly less by so heavily error-prone designers.

  • Fabio Pizzini

    Amazing every thing that Blizzard do it is amazing, MOP it is a great expansion, great enviroments and great lore

    WoW number one as usual!!!

  • Chad Klusman

    I love that miltiple people asked what the 7.3 million are doing. It just shows you are out of touch with what is happening, and invalidates any point you make thereafter. Those 7.3 million are the “casuals” that everyone rips on constantly. Those are the numbers Blizz likes. only a small fraction of players has actually hit level cap in any Xpac. Our raiding bills get paid by people that never even did a heroic.

    @Kyle Schmiezer You are a retarded troll, go back to GW2.  You seem the kind of kid who got kicked from his raiding guild, then left for a game with no raiding.

  • DoctorOverlord

    It is funny how sales numbers that many gaming companies would kill to to achieve are considered lukewarm for ActiBlizz.     But reputation is part of the company’s mystique, it does cut both ways.     These are very respectable numbers by any measure and they are likely to increase, the question is how much, of course.  

    One has to wonder if Lazard Capital Markets’ Senior Internet and Gaming Research Analyst Atul Bagga (the guy who said digital sales were irrelevant and MoP sales were going poorly) is doing some fancy explaining to his bosses this week.

  • http://www.facebook.com/GLopez12 German Lopez

    Pretty bad numbers, as predicted by analysts. Selling 2.7 million in one week is a whole lot worse than 3.3 million in one day.

    • JariKiv

      2.7 million sales in 1 week is “pretty bad numbers” ?
      It’s true that they’re not as good Cataclysm, but I wouldn’t call that bad.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=613400106 Francois Brisson

      Pretty bad numbers? Since people love the compare them, that means GW2 number’s are complete shit? More people have MoP then there are people playing GW2.

  • http://www.facebook.com/inkogni.alex Inkogni Alex

    agreed, not that many 7-12 year old’s to be joining your realm with a squeaky voice :D
    i personally enjoy GW2 and punching my face on keyboard as i pvp.
    pvp = the REAL endgame 
    come at me bro!

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      While GW2 has good gameplay, but you got ripped off if all you are doing is sPvP.  GW2 sPvP is not worth $60. GW2 sPvP is a lobby-based MOBA pretending to be part of a MMO.   

      • http://twitter.com/Luke_Malcolm Luke Malcolm

         Half the time its is just a zerg.

      • http://www.facebook.com/inkogni.alex Inkogni Alex

        ofc im not just doing nonstop pvp, theres dungeons/farming for legendary and map exploring
        the zerg doesn’t happen that often to my realm, anything that has walls cant be taken out by just a zerg or brute force using fists 

      • joe stallion

        Are you a professional gamer?

  • Ravenstorm

    I’m very happy for ActiBlizz that MoP sales are going super. For me WoW was the sweetheart of mmo’s since it was my first, and you never forget your first love. Although I had to let her go I’ll remember her always. Here’s to having her around for years to come, and may her kid Titan be all we can imagine it to be! Cheers.

  • http://twitter.com/crocodilius ryan phillips

    One part of this story confuses me…so..Olivia is really Mystique?..

    • http://quintlyn.com/ QuintLyn Bowers

       You weren’t supposed to point that out.

      • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

        Isn’t she cosplaying an Orion from Star Trek.  BTW, I do miss you weekly cosplay news hits with MikeB. 

        • http://quintlyn.com/ QuintLyn Bowers

           Don’t worry. They’re not gone forever. Just on a short hiatus. :D

  • http://twitter.com/ProTrolly ProTrolly

    blizzard lieing making people think it worth getting to push up sales. I not buy it and will be unsub on 26th this month my annual pass is over then.

  • http://twitter.com/ProTrolly ProTrolly

    also now i know whos all the bots in the game ;)

  • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

    The numbers look really good. Not surprised the raw number is less than the last xpac. Cata had great hype, 12m player-base and a strong 25-man raiding scene from LK.

    I suspect digital sales really affected one-day vs one-week sales, made it so easy to wait until the last minute to purchase Mists of Pandaria. 

    Also had a few guildies use the one week delay on raids to taking a wait and see attitude.  The overwhelming positive feedback on Pandaria had them all signing up within a few days.  Every day, I would see guildies pop up in the Jade Forest. 

  • http://twitter.com/Deadalon Deadalon

    Lets see what happens.  Cata started ok – then patch 4.1 took care of few millions… and then the  rest is history.   BLizzard will really need to keep pushing out content if they expect ppl to be paying sub for next two years when SWTOR f2p and GW2 are now out.   But it seems to be their main goal atm to get as many as possible buying MOP before they go into detail about next 2 years.  Cause yes… it will be 2 years.

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      No, Cata went bad from the start. The typical player leveled from 80 to 85 in about three days. You couldn’t get a pug through the heroics, so alot of players stop playing their mains.  That’s what happened to me, without good gear, healing early Cata heroics as a resto druid was next to impossible.  Then raid groups that had been together through LK, fell apart when they couldn’t get through the first raid boss Magmaw. That’s when I took a raiding break and leveled my Goblin Mage.

      For an expansion, I would hope the next expansion would be two years. I believe the player base wants regular updates (i.e. don’t stop updates to put out an expansion) not a brand new 5 level expansion every year. 

  • Ryan maxy

    The numbers will sky rocket a bit, like a previous post having already said, many people were waiting a week to hear feedback from their fellow guild mates/friends, and let me say this there is a lot of good things being said about this expansion so far. Sure its a little early to say it will be good through out the whole thing, but maybe the positive attitudes will change some silly children jumping on the ol` bandwagon ” bah pandas, who wants to play with silly pandas ” Grow up.

    On a side note people comparing GW2 to WoW, stop being a moron. If you have been playing wow for a good while there’s a high chance you wouldn’t have liked GW2 and would have known that if you looked at the game more and again not jumping on the “wow killer” wagon. No need to slag of the game just because you didn’t enjoy it alot of the aspects of the game are still fun and really well done.

  • http://twitter.com/ProTrolly ProTrolly

    2.7 million copies in its first week and they say over 10 million subs some how thats not right or are the other 7.3 million not like mist of pandaria

    • pc11

      People can be subbed and playing still on cataclysm, or even previous expansions. Also around 70% of the subscribers to WOW are in Asia. If they are right and the Asians really want the pandas WOW can go back to 12 million subscribers by the end of the year.

      • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

        Not sure where the 70% comes from.  But if Mists is a huge hit in China, you have to wonder if Blizzard will report the number of active accounts in China.  If Mists is a monster hit in China, can Blizzard really get away with report 12m or 15m or 20m subs/aa.  

  • Josh Rosenvelt

    Just to add this is the first time China had a release of expansion the same time as the west (1 week later) Infact china was one xpac behind us when it initially started there. So they didn’t have the same time gaps the west did between content patches.

    Which means they really really have to push out content a lot quicker to avoid massive spikes and dips in sub numbers between content patches.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=613400106 Francois Brisson

    Look’s like people at GB ( maybe excluding Gary) where completely off predicting ~1.5 million sales and around 9 million subs. I’m not surprised at all that they soled 2.7 million copy’s of MoP and have over 10 million subs. Also I don’t understand how people can’t comprehend the ability to play World of Warcraft without playing MoP, I mean are people really that stupid?

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      I may have to re-watch last weeks TWIMMO, Gary was leading the charge on over/under on when would WoW would be under 9m subs.  Will have to check on Garys prediction. I also predict Gary will not mention it during Fridays TWIMMO.

      EDIT: My bad, GARY IS THE MAN. He was the only one to predict over 10m subs. Jason was under 9m, wonder if Jason will make an appearance todays TWIMMO.

  • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

    I think you are overplaying the annual pass, it was only 1.5m subs and wouldn’t account for the increase in subs.  It will be interesting to see how many of the 1.5 m annual pass holders un-sub at the end of the month. 

    While I did the second account ($5 WoW FTW)  I couldn’t imagine a million gamers picked up a second account.

    The 10m subs does not include the release of Mists in China.  I would say 10m subs in now a baseline.  Lets see what subs hits once Mist hit China, I think the numbers are going to be huge. 

    Concurrent users is a important metric for F2P games, because you got to keep gamers playing and spending money in the cash shop.   WoW is not a F2P game it’s a subscription or active account game.  

    If you want to measure the health of World of Warcraft consider the 2.7m copies of Mists of Pandaria sold in the first week.  If Blizzard really only sold 750k retail copies the first day, can you imagine how many digital sales Blizzard made.  Gamers were logging in and buying directly from Blizzard.  

  • jayremy

    People keep saying that this game being old is detrimental, well actually it isn’t. It has been the games saving grace every time when the new big MMO have launched in NA, people would always go back to WoW because it had 5+ years of content over everybody else, along with balancing, social feature development, UI improvements, establishment and so on.

    All those things come with age, they came in at a good time and Warcraft 3 was very popular and highly satisfactory (it was EPIC). It wasn’t challenged as hard when it was in it’s younger stages. Games then had some fatal flaws, but MMORPGs now are gimped in lacking everything at launch needed to outdo them, at least when bringing a similar game playstyle to gamers. Blizzard has been thriving off the fact WoW/Warcraft was big and popular from the start (for the times) and has capitalized on that.

    It’s kind of like those banks that are “too big to fail” impossible for any competition to come in and simply topple, it has to kill off itself.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.hornsby.7 Jonathan Hornsby

    As a Guild Wars 2 fan I think this is a great thing; it means some of the WoW-tards will be getting out of my preferred game. Good times ahead, WoW players are a toxic element to any MMO community.

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      Yep, you are a shining example of a GW2 fan. First they are all claiming no one would return to a previous MMO after trying out GW2, now they sound like school children yelling “I never wanted to be your friend anyway!”

      • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.hornsby.7 Jonathan Hornsby

        Actually I’ve been saying for years that the average WoW, or “traditional MMO”, fan would probably hate GW2 and leave within a few months. I believe I even said as much on some gamebreaker video recently.

        And as far as saying I never wanted to be their friend; frankly the WoW community is the primary reason I quit WoW. So yeah; nail on the head. People who like that kind of game have a game designed from the ground up to give them everything they want. So when it comes to GW2 I’d prefer it if they stayed a safe distance away.

        • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

          I’m sure you have been, your post just came out of left field and really came across as a sour grapes whining. Its just so funny you are posting this to an article about Mists sales and WoW subscriptions. 

          Guild Wars 2 is a good game, it’s just amazing that the typical GW2 fan has gone from you can play multiple MMOs to hating on WoW players.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.hornsby.7 Jonathan Hornsby

            WoW players give us a lot to hate. And frankly a lot of us are probably getting sick of all the WoW players trolling in map chat. If you want raids go play WoW (please) and stop bitching about it in GW2.

            If I hear one more ass go on about endgame I’m going to lose it.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=743432738 Mcnick Dicarpio

            WOW plyrs contain a lot of hate…GW2 promote Team work.naturally everyone is happy…if u enjoy Tiny TOONs fighting n enjoy paying for it.its your choice…GW2 rules for me in so many ways…u ppl can live with ur denial

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/JDADKJJPYYQA2BABSWMBRJDCTU Nick

             I think it’s you guys who live in denial. What’s your problem with people playing what they like?
            Go post your hate comments on some GW2 thread instead.

      • http://twitter.com/Iomegadrive1 Chris P

        Actually this is what WoW players have been doing to every MMO, and who are these people that claimed they would never go back? The people with an open mind and people who don’t want to do repetitive tasks stick to GW2 and the people who want to boast about their gear go back to WoW and do pointless, repetitive content through 95% of the game. This is why the WoW fanbase has such a negative reputation. ANY MMO that comes out is instantly shunned as being a “WoW clone” or being “over hyped.” It GW2′s case it is “Why is this game not a clone of WoW?!” The contradictory statements are off the charts. That is why people coming from WoW get ignored. Hell even Rift has more of a reason to charge people 15 dollars a month because it has constant content updates Vs, WoW’s virtual lack of constant updates. D3 has proven Blizz fans will buy anything, even when it shows it will be horrible in Beta. This is also why people have to through misleading information like what is in this article which gives the impression the expansion did very well. Did it mention the active Annual Passes that will expire soon? Not to mention apparently the article was edited to finally include that is did worse than Cata only to come out with more misleading information with the percentages. A game with only 2 players with 2 subscribers compared to the 0 before is a 100% uptake. The amount of players dropped. That should be it.

        • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

          Guild Wars 2 is a good game, but has more than is share of repetitive tasks. That is why you keep hearing of players paying real money to buy mats so they can craft through the last 10, 20 or 30 levels. (I was kind of surprised with Pockket admitted to buy gems so she could craft through the last 30 levels.)

          Still don’t under why post the hate to a article about Mists sales and WoW subscriptions. 

          Clearly Blizzard has its work cut out.  It’s now set the benchmark of 10 million subs.  

          They have some real concerns they need to address:
           - The 1.5m annual pass holders, did they do enough to keep them subscribing to WoW.
           - The WoW players that did not purchase Mists, at some point their subs will expire.  I couldnt image they will all continue to play WoW without Mists. 
           - The type of players that purchase a WoW expansion and 60 days of game type.  I’m seeing thoses players more and more, they play WoW between 2-4 months out of the year.  They buy a game card over the summer and winter. 

          But, they do have Mists being released in China, that has potential huge upside. 

    • http://twitter.com/justzephy Zephyrus

      Your community is what you make and if you are around toxic ‘tards. That’s on you. Not the rest of the community. Find better friends.

      • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.hornsby.7 Jonathan Hornsby

        I did. I played Guild Wars.

        And to be frank; some random jerk I’ve never met running up and harassing me isn’t on me. It is on the community that tolerates and even at time encourages such behavior to the point when a new player can’t take two steps without running into some asshole. There is a reason why the WoW community is lumped together with the CoD community to most gamers.

        You are right about one thing; your community is what you make it. So clean up your shit, you’re making the rest of us look bad.

        • http://twitter.com/Critzkreig Cody Moody

          Your game doesn’t have a sub. Apparently the trolls won’t need to pay monthly to troll you. Sorry about that.

          • http://www.facebook.com/jonathan.hornsby.7 Jonathan Hornsby

             As if that mattered. Your game does have a sub fee and it is where all the trolls live.

          • myeung16

            no need to shiit around..gw2 came out as wow killer, and look at the figures, wow still rules after these years and with shiit graphics AND with subscrption fee, so..u can c which has more playability

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=743432738 Mcnick Dicarpio

        actually a lot of my Guild from GW2……used to play WOW…their credit card still link to blizzard to deduct the money every month.but they are just lazy to go back now…..so it dosent mean they are ppl playign the game still how many are playing the game they wouldnt tell.

  • Lynx Raven Raide

    I find it interesting that they are mentioning the Chinese release in all this, given last I saw that was the area they lost subs from earlier this year. While some may think the whole Panderan theme would appeal over there, it may also have the opposite effect, them seeing it as an insult. Though, on the flipside, there could be high numbers: the gold sellers would need to get the new expansion, wouldn’t they ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/maros.kozej Maroš Kožej

    NO TROLLS NO FEE jsut pure storyline I stoped with wow when cat came that was something I couldnt handle … SKYRIM :P Now i have peace quite game to play milions of quests dragons :P and much more free time no raid calendars

  • mudslinger777

    I’m amazed at how readily some of you post your full names and face pic for the world to see.
    Do you really feel that safe?

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