Faced with complaints about players feeling they “have to” run LFR in order to raid normal modes, Community Manager Zarhym has posted a rather firm response on the US forums.
He deals with some issues that have come up a lot in Mists of Pandaria, including whether certain things like LFR and Daily Quests are mandatory or not. He’s clearing up a few key points here, and it makes interesting and comforting reading. It’s notable that the Raid Finder, or LFR, was always intended from its inception not to be a rung on the gearing ladder, but to be a way to see content. It was aimed at the players who didn’t have the option, time, or schedule to raid with a guild, and with Mists of Pandaria, as Zarhym points out, they’re taking this far more seriously.
The full post is below, but the key points are as follows:
- You’re not forced by the game (AT ALL) to keep running LFR each week for gear if you want to be successful in the higher difficulties.
- With stat inflation, the difference between these (LFR and Heroic Dungeon) item levels is almost negligible, unless you’re comparing full sets.
- In the amount of time it might take you to get several upgrades via LFR, you should be getting several upgrades via normal difficulty — and you get a head start on normal difficulty with Raid Finder always releasing at least a week later.
- Organized raiders who make progress each week on normal difficulty shouldn’t hit any pass/fail gear checks and lose because they’re not running LFR every week.
The first one is the most interesting. Do players feel forced to run LFR? Do players feel forced to do Dailies? And is this a mentality that ought to be pushed back against? Has the game changed so much that players can do what they want? Is Zarhym right that players shouldn’t complain and that they’re under no obligation?
Check out Zarhym’s full post below.
But let’s discuss the issue you raise: “I run raid content in an organized group. I don’t want to do LFR on top of my normal raiding, but I feel like I have to if I want to gear up as fast as possible.”
The statement might be true for some, but I have a lot of follow-ups.
- Are you in a guild that has success with Heroic raid progression? This one’s pretty important, as any guild that’s good enough to be farming, or at least killing several bosses in, Heroic Mogu’shan Vaults and Heart of Fear by the time Terrace of Endless Spring opens via LFR, will not likely need a single piece of gear from LFR. Terrace of Endless Spring LFR items won’t be as good as your Heroic raid gear.
- Is your guild demanding that you run LFR every week for the chance at some upgrades you haven’t made via normal difficulty yet? In your post you say we’re forcing you into LFR, but that’s not true. I won’t argue semantics, but if you’re min/maxing your character for every competitive edge possible, that’s a playstyle choice.
- How badly are you really hurting your raid by not running LFR? Is your progression in normal difficulty such that upgrading from a piece of ilvl 463 gear to 476 gear is “make or break” for the entire raid? With stat inflation, the difference between these item levels is almost negligible, unless you’re comparing full sets. But in the amount of time it might take you to get several upgrades via LFR, you should be getting several upgrades via normal difficulty — and you get a head start on normal difficulty with Raid Finder always releasing at least a week later.
Certainly there’s a psychology to hunting down every advantage you can, and the endgame is largely about that. But there are a lot of nuances in the raid progression system to ensure that:
A) Raid Finder has a healthy pool of players from which to choose
B) Organized raiders who regularly tackle Heroic difficulty will have virtually no need to run Raid Finder much at all this expansion (since a new tier’s LFR ilvl won’t outdo the previous tier’s Heroic ilvl)
C) Organized raiders who make progress each week on normal difficulty shouldn’t hit any pass/fail gear checks and lose because they’re not running LFR every week.
D) You’re not forced by the game (AT ALL) to keep running LFR each week for gear if you want to be successful in the higher difficulties.
I asked a lot of questions because you’re demanding a very dramatic change to the game, but you’ve shared almost no details regarding why this change is completely necessary for everyone, and you’re posting on an account that gives me absolutely no insight into your level-90 progression.










