Written by: (@QuintLyn) | August 1, 2012 12:05 pm

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The next time you log into Steam you’re going to be asked to agree to an updated Steam Subscriber Agreement and may want to take a peek at the updated version of Valve’s Privacy Policy as well. Valve has made a few significant changes.

The first change is related to how dispute resolution is handled. Essentially, this is related to situations where a customer may find himself unhappy with products or services on Steam and it can not be handled by customer service to satisfaction.

Valve has outlined a process by which the customer may use arbitration or small claims court to resolve the issue with Valve reimbursing a certain amount of the cost — regardless of the decision. The only exception to the reimbursement is if the arbitrator determines “the claim to be frivolous or the costs unreasonable”.

There is, however, a stipulation. Customers may now only file claims individually and can not participate in any class action suits against the company. According to Valve’s post on the matter they feel that while some class action suits do benefit customers, the majority of them are really only beneficial to the lawyers responsible for handling the claims. In Valve’s opinion, the process they have outlined is faster and better for both the customer and themselves.

In addition to these changes, Valve has also announced the opening of a new office in Luxembourg. Steam users living in Europe will be subject to a slightly different version of the Steam Subscriber Agreement which will be handled through the Luxembourg office. This agreement is amended to include items specific to EU customers.

Valve Makes Some Interesting Changes To The Steam Subscriber Agreement

  • Brimstar

    Video not found

    • http://quintlyn.com/ QuintLyn Bowers

      For some reason the videos seem to take time to upload for people in different areas.  :/  We put the post up because it shows up for us.  Sorry about that.

      • Old Ben

        Nearly all large video hosts have multiple servers across the world, and redirect the requests to the one closest to each visitor. 

        Google actually does something smarter, but only possible when you have access to really huge internet pipes. If you open a video uploaded by someone in another region, YouTube sends you to your local server. Your local server then realizes it doesn’t have that video but, instead of telling you “not found” or telling your browser to connect to the foreign server (which could lead to noticeable lag and buffering issues) it download the full video from the original region (or from the nearest region that has a copy) on the fly.

        That’s what that little extra pause at the start of some “foreign” videos is – it’s the time it takes for Google’s internet backbone to transfer the file. When someone else from your region opens the same video, they won’t get that pause, because the file is already cached locally (unless no one has played it for so long that it got deleted again). So, in a way, that extra pause means you’re a pioneer. ;-)

  • http://twitter.com/Tatlreach Michael Salata

    same -> ”
    Video not found”.  I would just like to detach a lot of my games from steam before anything gets out of had.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Bill-Gerrettie-Jr/1287578323 Bill Gerrettie Jr

    Vid not up, but based on the written article, I tend to agree with Valve. Class action suits always make the ambulance chasing scum… er, I mean lawyers rich while doing very little for the plaintiffs.

    • MMO_Doubter

       Class action suits are very important to equalize private citizens against big companies.

  • http://twitter.com/cecilandblues Tony

    Interesting new law in Europe, I heard a story on NPR a couple of weeks ago about this, Customers are allowed to resell digital software, companies that offer that digital software must provide the tools needed to do so, and no EULA can restrict this right, even if already signed. (My understanding based on a 2.5 minute radio story I heard while in traffic, I’m sure there are bits I may not fully understand.)

    • Merijn Bouwmeester

      searched google and its true! official file says “An author of software cannot oppose the resale of his ‘used’ licences allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet. The exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by such a licence is exhausted on its first sale.”

      if you google it you probebly will find it x)

    • Old Ben

      Yes, as long as they can guarantee that they don’t retain access to the software, they can (re)sell it, same as any other good.

  • Revanhavoc

    I have no doubt the recent law suit brought against Mass Effect 3 for a fail ending will continue to have reveberations in the industry. This decision by Valve is one of the first steps. These aren’t little companies anymore, they are huge some fo them even corporations. They have to protect themselves.

    Oh and Luxembourg has a great tax policy.

  • MMO_Doubter

    NOT legal.

    There are laws against people waiving certain rights in such ‘agreements’.

    I use Steam, but this is something that looks very suspicious.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jason-Quinn/504633100 Jason Quinn

    This is just another reason why I won’t use steam.

    • Old Ben

      So, do you read the EULAs of the games you buy outside of Steam?

    • Andres Blanco

       Because you’ll have limitations sueing them? makes sense… I don’t see anything wrong with them trying to defend themselfs of super idiotic legal processes, Like the guy who sued Mc donald’s for not advising their food makes you fat… where honestly the lawyer is the one taking advantage. 

       What happened to people using services to enjoy the service itself? rather than to look for excuses on a possible lawsuit… and finally a “good” lawyer can still make it through if this really is violating our rights, after all they get killers out of jail every day arround the world, this is no biggie but it’s ok for the internet to overreact… I guess…

  • Old Ben

    Valve is offering to pay for your legal fees even if you _lose_ the case, and they’ll obviously return all your money if you win.

    Plus, by committing itself to paying all the legal fees, this increases the chances that Valve will just return your money (no questions asked) before you even go to court, because it’s cheaper for them.

    The main reason for this is preventing certain lawyers who specialize in class action suits from “rounding up” thousands of players (who might have been perfectly happy with the game) and promising them some of their money back, just to increase their own (the lawyers’) profits.

    Seems perfectly reasonable (and sadly, given the way the legal system has become a business, necessary).

    Having said that, it also seems completely illegal in most places. EULAs don’t supersede the law, and most countries have laws protecting this type of consumer rights.

  • xanous

    What irks me is that steam (and most online games too) basically holds your game library hostage to force you to accept changes to the EULA.  You’re not going to get a refund for all the games you’ve ever purchased on Steam if you find giving your rights away unacceptable.

  • Ravenstorm

    Weird weird weird. Back here in the EU all I’m thinking of is: plz settle things so we too can get giveaways too, but what MikeB said makes sense: I rly wouldn’t smile if valve stopped their Steam services cuz that would surely ‘end’ all those nice games I bought on it.

    And since Steam doesn’t involve medical issues, unless going frothmouth after playing a steam game fer a gazillion hours and then some is somehow their fault, I don’t see the point.
    Maybe in the US ppl tend to go lawsuit for every mistake or whatever, but here in the EU I only ‘steam’ from frustration sometimes (I know, bad joke) but tbh unless the internet craps out on me from some technical issue or a powerfailure or whatever, I never had problems with Steam nor would I think to make a lawsuit against Valve. For the most part cuz it’s in freakin’ Amerika and howthe hell would I pay fer that :P

    So I just would say: peace out! Hi mom! And: MikeB yer awsume dude, don’t ever die and do this shnit till my dying days and I’ll go a happy man!

  • http://www.facebook.com/davidallmighty David Cohen

    It sounds like steam and EA are gonna try and set up a subscription fee, Im happy I have very little games on either. And with this change I will not buy any more from either just cause I cant trust em to be nice.

    • pc11

      Steam can not implement a subscription without giving the option for existing clients to leave the service with all the games they bought. You can’t sell a product to a client and later say “now you need to pay me a monthly fee to keep using it” by changing the contract unilaterly.

  • pc11

    Dont worry people Steam is just protecting themselves from greedy lawyers, and a crap judicial system in the USA. Everything will be the same as before for us.

    The most interesting bit to me in all this is the fact that Valve will now have an European office making it impossible for them to dodge our laws. Specially now when it has just been declared over here that you are allowed to sell your used download games. Waiting to see how they will implement that one.

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