The Republic: E3 Exploration -- The Star Wars: The Old Republic Show

Written by: (Twitter @Shaddoe - ) | June 5, 2012 3:30 pm
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Star Wars: The Old Republic made a surprising showing at E3 shortly before we recorded the our weekly broadcast.

In fact, Justin Lowe wasn’t expecting much because most MMOs don’t get presentations at press conferences after they have already launched. Not only did Dr. Ray Muzyka sell the audience on the new features coming to SWTOR, but he also presented a new 60-second video showing off said features.

However, Gary Gannon — standing in for me, since I couldn’t make the show — was disappointed in the quality of the presentation. SWTOR has been know for its quality video trailers because of the depth and the storytelling even in the short 60-second clips. This one, unfortunately, appeared to be just a bulletpoint list of up-coming content.

That said, there is a lot of new coming to Star Wars: The Old Republic, we tackle it all. Gary Gannon, Justin Lowe from Darth Hater, and Ed Park from Taugrim explore the ins and outs of BioWare‘s MMORPG in The Republic!

The Republic: E3 Exploration -- The Star Wars: The Old Republic Show
  • Damir Miric

    You guys are the best… sorry you are used to comment on this shity game… I’m not saying which show I  would like to see you on.

  • testguy111

    I so enjoyed seeing the BW guy squirming… he knew he was talking excuses and bullshit… and he got no applause, not even a clap… lol

    so embarrassing 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Z36GPOU3Q2QIQYBIDVNQAVGNGE Raul

    a new space on rails mission….
    on the same single model they’ve made of a space station.
    (for both sides) 

  • http://twitter.com/crocodilius ryan phillips

    personally, i would’ve prefered Dragon Age3 news of which there was none.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JO75BNS43WDETCNCO7F7XS6Q4 jo

    LMAO at “rapid and unprecedented pace”. sorry buddy, i hate Rift but TRION shits all over bioware and other mmo devs for content delivery. hahahaha, did you see the fucking GW2 patch notes???? so they’re fixing a load of shit and implementing wanted changes from the last beta already….they have chat bubbles and the game is not out. SWTOR is out six months and still has pathetically trivial content, half the bugs are still there including quest bugs and the pervasive sound bugs. they have no chat bubbles still….

    nothing can save it now.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JO75BNS43WDETCNCO7F7XS6Q4 jo

    seriously man, holy freaking shit. they hype up all their patches like fucking crazy….people REALLY think GW2 is more overhyped than this!? that game is WAYYY closer to the shit the website and devs say about it.

    1.2 one of the biggest free updates EVER!? holy shit, you must be all children to buy that line, fucking asheron’s call shits all over it. and there’s no such goddamn thing as a FREE update to a game that you’re paying for month to month.

  • http://www.facebook.com/clint.casey1 Charles Clint Casey

    Aric Jorgan is a Cathar, and he doesn’t sound like he’s Russian.

  • kreep3r

    The hate for this game from the GW2 fanbois is overwhelming.

    • http://twitter.com/grizzlyGummy Glajummy

      Nah man, everyone hates this game. 

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JO75BNS43WDETCNCO7F7XS6Q4 jo

      sorry kid, not a GW2 fanboy. believe it or not, most normal gamers(and humans in general) think GW2 looks a whole hell of alot better than SWTOR. i don’t have to be part of the fanbase to realize it…

      • kreep3r

        gw2 looks great for a fantasy based game, no doubt. I’ll be picking it up myself a month or so after it’s out. But the bashing and “slogan” complaints of swtor is getting old though. 
        It seems like the game didn’t meet elitist standards or the so called hype that was exaggerated in players minds, so now it’s cool to hate on the game.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/3JO75BNS43WDETCNCO7F7XS6Q4 jo

          nah buddy, shit was flat out hyped. i had no immediate interest in it or gw2…but swtor hype was all aorund. they are STILL hyping every little update, the 1.2 hype at PAX was pathetic and it didn’t even have all the features they were hyping.

          unprecedented content update!? really? claiming it’s free? claiming 1.2 is the biggest update in mmo history!? holy shit.

          if you like swtor, fine. i don’t have any hatred for you, but please shut up and keep your head down.

          • kreep3r

            They were advertising it like everyone else. The followers and fans were hyping the game, as with any game that they think they’d enjoy. 
            I was actually surprised to see Bioware/TOR at E3. Swtor is not in EA’s top 5 list of important games. and nah bro, i won’t shut up and keep my head down … 

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brandon-Carpenter/100003272493739 Brandon Carpenter

            Quite the contrary, they advertised the game to be more linear and “revolutionary” but it turned out to be a WoW clone with Voice over and lightsabers..

          • kreep3r

            That’s the “slogan” talk I want to see.. love it :P

            I edited my post as I noticed that he was referring to you keeping your head down and such…

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brandon-Carpenter/100003272493739 Brandon Carpenter

            lol funny, I meant to say they tried to make the game a more “non linear” gameplay.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brandon-Carpenter/100003272493739 Brandon Carpenter

          I’m pretty sure the game ONLY reached the elitist crowds, although I understand why the RP crowd still plays.. game in general was a Hype and once it launched people felt like the game didn’t meet their hype.. The game is a great game but by over exiting people about something that isn’t true about the game is why it failed.. and failing, but who knows maybe they fired a ton of their own workers so that they could Hire a few bright minds to fix their truly failing game.. (based on the number of people leaving we all have to agree the game is for a fact fail”ing”)

    • testguy111

       about “fantasy” based game…

      star wars is fantasy. “the force” is magic. plain and simple.

      and there is no explanation given for any technology (essential for real SciFi)

      light sabers dont use up energy and violate a shitload of physics rules, i.e. the first law of  thermodynamics

      again, no explanation is given as to why.

      star wars has nothing scifi in it. it is fantasy.

      fantasy worlds are at least honest about it and don’t dress up as something they are not.

      Star Wars is the tranny of fantasy

  • http://www.facebook.com/clint.casey1 Charles Clint Casey

    Some of the packages that were in that leaked survey included free game time. Like there was one for $10 for a month, and $40 for 3 months.

    Which is kind of the price of paying for a monthly subscription.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Johnson/1353890372 Michael Johnson

    No one clapped at the end

    AAAHAHHAHAHAH

  • midx

    wonder if their going to make you pay for ranked warzones

  • midx

    Sigh netflix I wen’t their and it’s not available in Australia 

  • Nathan Breininger

    Props on Netflix ad lead in Gary.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1260066056 Steven Diaz

    I completely agree with Gary on the auction house issue.  It’s a perfect example of the type of streamlining that actually ends up making games worse.  Streamlining certain things like the ability to click on a name in the quest log and being taken there, all those things make games too simple.  When a game is too simple, it ends up killing the social connection.  Once you kill the social connection, you also kill longevity for a large portion of players.  Just my two cents.

  • Paul Allen

    So how many more weeks till The Republic ends? You guys gotta being getting bored of wasting your money on a game you don’t even seem to like.

  • steven via

    Gary stop trolling.. 
    You’re starting to reach dickhead status. 

    • David Alcon

      I liked it. I’d rather someone not pull their punches than have the entire panel playing it PC (no offense Justin). =)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Brandon-Carpenter/100003272493739 Brandon Carpenter

      He’s not being a Dick (Trollin), he’s being sarcastic most of the times, it’s hilarious how people throw around the word troll just because we’re on the internet. 

  • Stephen Evans

    Alright.  We get it.  Gamebreaker is a GW2 fansite.  Removing this from my bookmarks.

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      Give them six months after GW2 release, the typical sentement about GW2 will be “I can’t get anyone to do harder PVE content!”

      • testguy111

         7 years after guild wars 1 release, I can log in every day and meet hundreds of people in towns and outposts to do any kind of content with.

        Arenanet has the best track record, with CCP (Eve Online), when it comes to long term commitment, constant updates and steady population

        guild wars 1 has more PvE content than WoW.

        think about that for a second.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Doyle-Hargrave/1182733324 Doyle Hargrave

    6 months ive waited for some sort of open world pvp and this is all they have to show? ive unsubbed its just fucking sad to believe this is a star wars game.  What im getting sick of is the kool aid drinkers who think bieng on rails 6 months in is acceptable. Big surprise about cathars lol gee so we can have another human with fur instead of blue or red skin lmao. Come on people you cant be that stupid to not realize there bieng lazy jerkoffs with this game. 1 wz 1 op for the year no open world pvp was the nail in the coffin for me.

    This game is not worth 15 bucks a month. Heres my question to the people who say just leave if you dont like it.

    Why are you paying for a game where your lied to constantly with empty promises?
    Why are you settling for garbage and incompetence?
    Why is bioware selling a lfg tool custom UI as content?
    Do you feel justified/satisified paying 15 bucks a month with empty servers?

    Look im not saying to not play or to play it im just asking you to ask yourself these questions. Call me a hater all you want i love star wars and waited 5 years for this game and all ive seen is endless incompetence and very stupid trying to sell mmo like its a single player game and not realizing or understanding this is a mmo. Gabe is the worst dev ive ever seen in my life he should have been fired after 1.1 honestly but theyve kept him on and the pvp has gotten worse and worse and worse. James ohlen knows swtor as much as john smedly did about swg and thats not saying much lol.

    • http://www.facebook.com/marcus.ellsworth.7 Marcus Ellsworth

      1) I want to.
      2) No better game to play at this time.
      3) Don’t care.
      4)Roll on a server that’s not empty.

      I think you are one of “those” who had placed your expectations way to high for any game company to meet. Bioware had to release the game as it was to meet the demands of their share holders. Anyone who thinks any game that is released is gonna have 7 years of polish on it needs to wake up. Pick a game and stand by your game instead of whining and crying. I did. And there is no way im gonna play a game with panda’s and pokemon on a graphics engine over 10 years old with my dual nvidia 580 cards.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=714772938 Mark Ryan Strong

         Completely agree sir. Good points all around.

      • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

        I am so looking forward to MoP and GW2.  MoP will have a crazy amount of content and Pandaria just looks amazing.  Got to give it to Blizz for pushing their engine to the max.

        Going to love smashing and bashing allie Pandas into the ground. Plan on seeing alot of dead panda emotes, planting my Flag of Ownership on their lifeless corpses.

        The 14 MoP raid bosses will be the challenge I’m looking for and that’s just for the the first tier.  There is nothing like listening to raid chat when you down a particularly hard raid boss for the first time.

        So, with the Raiding in MoP and WvW in GW2, my dance card will be full.  

    • http://www.facebook.com/davidallmighty David Cohen

       They snagged me right as they gave that free month, I too have unsubbed, Im raiding with my guild, but have a couple weeks left of time… Yeah not gonna sub from the looks of things either.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/FPXO267IVAHL3MK4HRRNRQPNDA Bush Swanson, The American Dre

    Oh Gary I wish you’d marry me. I’m still a virgin.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1151407861 Trey Alsup

    Taugrim fragged!

  • Mikahh

    i posted in a previous post that for any mmo to survive they would have to reach out to the console player .. looks like bio is doing that..with the E3 reveal..

  • http://www.facebook.com/benni.nord Benni Nord

    Love the real base voice “yes” from J Lo :D

  • Mikahh

    the thing about cross faction AH is.. you need server trans.. or cross server AH  for it to work..reason for server  trans is low pop servers (obvious) or cross server ( would entail global AH).

  • Mikahh

    Crafting hubs would be awesome..
     

  • Mikahh

    an incentive for open world pvp sounds like a ganking thing..

  • Mikahh

    pvp = dodge ball  you die  your  out.. pvp   you get hit with the ball your   your out.. no res..but that would defeat the instant gratz of most console players  to join an MMO..

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GVBCR3M2M4UFXGHWXV4UEMREVI Chris

    private shops…lol…were you playing PWI, Ed…lol…Grindy!!!!

  • Randy McRandom

    I feel so bad for Justin.  The last 4 shows the guy looks like he is going through a breakup.

  • ajes52

    Gary! What happened?  6 months ago you were sooooo excited for SWtoR.  Now you have become negative about everything…ie. your critique during the E3 video.  Have you become the new DarthHater?

    • http://www.facebook.com/davidallmighty David Cohen

       DarthHater is actually still a fanboy beyond fanboy, I laugh how he just cannot accept that the game is not delivering.. Gary is a realist.. and honestly he can’t be more honest about things as he is in the episode.

      • ajes52

        DH still straight face tears SWTOR when needed but he does have a large investment in his website therefore will always be on the side of the game.

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      Have you not watch Gary over the year.  He was gaga over Rift, Cata, SWTOR and GW2.  Don’t know if Gary has within the past year leveled a MMO character to max level. Gary?  He is a big fan of the new MMO.

      Got to figure, six months after GW2′s release.  Gary will say, I havent log into my GW2 character for months. I dont think Gary will ever have a max level GW2 character.

      Gary, you are da man.

      • ajes52

        I agree that Gary has always been a realist but he’s not enthused about anything anymore. And, what does his current game have to do with swtor? He’s not even focusing on content or gameplay at times during the video. He rips on them “selling” the game, the fact that the guy didn’t come back out, the quality of the videos, etc. He is “da man” but he could choose to have a little bit if hope for the biggest and most generational transcending IP ever…

        • testguy111

           the stuff he annonced is stuff that was supposed to be in the game from the start.

          and to proclaim 1.2 to be the biggest content update in the industry?? EXCUSE ME???? 

          any Rift patch, and of the 17 FREE EVE online expansions, any GW1 story patch was bigger

      • Andrew Downing

        Gary just panders to the masses, he has no opinion of his own. He was excited about SWTOR before it launched because the masses were excited. The moment that sentiment turned around (look at all the people saying its dead and TORtanic) he too changed his toon. He has done it with many many many things and its to keep his fanbase coming back and making him money. Its pure capitalism and money making. DO NOT take his opinion as fact.

    • testguy111

       you conclude that he’s hating the game cause he has AN EXPENSIVE TO RUN FANSITE called DarthHater?

      he’s a fanboi and the number 1 spin master for Bioware in the community. No matter what stunts BW pulls or how much they lie, this darth hater guy spins it positively.

  • http://twitter.com/mrboygirltoy mrboygirltoy

    are people still playing this game? Wow, find something else…game is dead.

    • Darth_Matter

       I’m still loving the game. My only complaint is that there are to many servers and the population is to spread out. Once transfers come on 6/12 and that is taken care of then I will be perfectly content. Already cancelled my WoW sub with no plans on re-subbing and have no urge whatsoever to get involved with GW2 since it looks so disorganized from a player perspective.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chaz.rpg Chaz Davis

    Lol he made fun of the Bioware guy because he stuttered! Gary is hilarious!

  • http://twitter.com/zerconi Samuli Rauatmaa

    Best Netflix plug:D “You know what’s not cheap? NETFLIX!”

  • http://twitter.com/overbyte overbyte

    gary’s negativity makes me sad – chin up mate, this is good news

    • http://www.facebook.com/davidallmighty David Cohen

       really? Yeah if you come to the game in 6-8 months, waiting for this crap is not good news at all. Maybe if you are casual, but the hardcore raid scene is more or less dead…. and looks to be for a months to come…

    • http://twitter.com/dularr Dularr

      Sadly, this really isnt that good a news.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mert.matthews.3 Mert Matthews

    Terror From Beyond… Sounds like an operation escaped from HP lovecrafts books come to think of it how awesome would that be if we could fight Cthulthu and other “Terrors From Beyond” Now that would get my sub

  • Judeau

    Gary, you’re great, but you should really stop doing this podcast. Do you even play anymore?

    • http://www.facebook.com/davidallmighty David Cohen

       He reminds me of how I react to this game right now lol.. I wanna love it, but damn it just is not giving me what I want… and Bioware’s SOON mantra is so old now

  • http://www.facebook.com/davidallmighty David Cohen

    Been farming ECHM for a month now. Being in an 8 man with very little to no stand by raiders, it will take us 2 months to full gear, and that is if you want the gear. Yes not all the gear is a real upgrade compared to the storymode gear. That said, if new content isn’t out by then if not before, I know my sub will be done. Kinda sad that a whole tier is 4 bosses that we cleared in a couple weeks (think some 4 mans have more bosses >.>)… SWOTOR was a decent MMO and has potential growth, but I am losing interest day by day…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Willi-Enderle/1668850948 Willi Enderle

    Gary is pretty negative here.
    But he is kinda right too, tbh.

    That press-conference guy didnt mention they released the game 6 months too early. But he praises the 1.2-patch as one of the biggest updates in history? He didnt mention either that was the “thats how it was supposed to be at release” – patch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kaden-Smith/100003905493006 Kaden Smith

    Good show. They actually used the words “Sandbox” and “SWG”  I feel vindicated

  • http://twitter.com/cipero Matt Cipriano

    Look bro’s, it’s simple as this. Chat bubbles. You have an mmo-rpg built around socialization, immersion, etc. And there still is nothing as simple and small as chat bubbles. Now I don’t want to knit-pick the game, but it’s the small things that go un-noticed in the games they are in, that kill games that they are not in. 

    GW2 for instance had 1 beta weekend. That’s all it took…1 weekend. People asked for chat bubbles…guess whats in for beta weekend two? Exactly. 

    It really just comes down to the if’s then’s. If you want a successful social game, then you must harbor a social environment.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/FPXO267IVAHL3MK4HRRNRQPNDA Bush Swanson, The American Dre

      I feel like a chat bubble makes it not immersion, because you got a bubble poppin up in your world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kaden-Smith/100003905493006 Kaden Smith

    An off switch for chat bubbles would fix any possible objection I would think.

  • testguy111

    SWTOR pop down almost 4.5% again from last week

    100,002 concurrent users 5/8/2012
    .
    .
    65,775 concurrent users 6/1/2012

    62,891 concurrent users 6/6/2012

    .

    down almost 38% in the last 30 days

  • pc11

    SWTOR announced free to play until level 15. If by the end of the year subs keep droping despite this free trial my predection of 2013 free-to-play will hit the mark.

    • testguy111

       due to the millions they’ll have to pay to LucasArts, free to play might not be profitable.

      could be that the game will shut down to save money

  • http://twitter.com/lifensoul Steven Whiting

    It’s because Bioware now being owned by EA, that’s why they do the crap like night infomercial style.

  • Alex Mac

    Constant doom and gloom from Gary. But that’s sort of his thing. At least he tends to get balanced out by more level heads. The game’s going to stabilize well enough to continue. Will it be dominant? If you’re asking that question or believed that it ever would be, then you were never being realistic. End of the day, content is expanding, servers are about to be consolidated, and the game’s on track to remain a presence in the market.

  • http://twitter.com/smithncjp JP Smith

    Did I miss this one on itunes.  I am not seeing it?

  • jgelling

    This game is showing every sign of dying: mass layoffs, server mergers disguised as transfers, hyping content to come “soon” instead of the almost content-free patch 1.3, and talking about the “incredible value” the product delivers. It all looks desperate to people who’ve seen stuff like this before.

    The problems with the game are fundamental design problems: they launched a Star Wars game set in a universe with hardly anything familiar from the franchise and gave players what’s basically a decent single player game with garbage MMO features grafted on after the fact. They can’t fix anything now – there’d be too much work to do.

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