Trash Talkin' TOR - Star Wars The Old Republic - Jedi Consular vs Imperial Agent

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GAMBREAKER presents to you the best Star Wars: The Old Republic show on the internet. We call it simply The Republic. On today’s show we talk about maps and walls. I bet you didn’t know that SWTOR had maps and walls! Kidding! We actually have something called patch notes to talk about this week. It is almost like TOR is becoming a real MMO, where we have things like patch notes, future changes, and class balancing to talk about. Surprise! TOR is not vaporware! Leading us down this winding-and-twisted road, Gary “Griefer” Gannon heads up our usual panel of SWTOR experts including Larry “Shaddoe” Everett from Massively, Justin “J.Lowe” Lowe from Darth Hater, and Ed “Taugrim” Park from Taugrim.com.

Besides the all-important closing of beta testing, the top story proclaims that Activision‘s CEO Bobby Kotick does not see the financial viability of BioWare‘s MMO because of the cut LucasArts retains for licensing. Our panel tends to believe that Kotick is blowing smoke. Everett asks when the last time Activision had anything to do with a Star Wars game, and Park wonders how Kotick has intimate knowledge of another company’s business deals.

However, you aren’t looking for the all-business commentary. You want our panel’s comments on the latest game changes, their final beta thoughts, and who would win in a fight against a Consular and Imperial Agent, right? (The Consular was featured in last week’s episode, so the Agent should win just to be fair.) You can find out all of that and more on this week’s edition of The Republic!

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Trash Talkin' TOR - Star Wars The Old Republic - Jedi Consular vs Imperial Agent

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http://www.facebook.com/people/Zach-Koczwara/1290154987 Zach Koczwara

larry! where did you get that TOR poster?! i want!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Zach-Koczwara/1290154987 Zach Koczwara

larry! where did you get that TOR poster?! i want!
http://www.paranoidferret.com Charlie Key

Ed’s voice needs to be a little louder. Get him to turn it up a little.
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Ed Park ⚔
  
  Thanks for the feedback I’ll make sure it’s cranked up for future shows.
Anonymous

Ed’s voice needs to be a little louder. Get him to turn it up a little.
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Taugrim (Ed Park)
  
  Thanks for the feedback I’ll make sure it’s cranked up for future shows.
http://www.facebook.com/karlmagnus.karlsson Karl-Magnus Karlsson

Great as always dudes, I’d rate my beta experience 4/4 as well, despite numerous bus and some fps issues. The game as it stands is kickass, This is a total newbie in the genre speaking.

My favorite bug is definetly invisible Bastila in the Council Chambers when playing Jedi Knight. Classic. The orange pixel also. May it rest in peace.
- http://www.facebook.com/BrianOrr.Author Brian Orr
  
  More than likely she wasn’t invisible but like 3 inches tall. I thought the same thing when I saw the bug, but then the camera switched to show her super tiny standing in her chair. Oh and it isn’t Bastila, it’s Shateel Shan (Spelling??) Bastila’s Great Great Great Grand-daughter.
http://www.facebook.com/karlmagnus.karlsson Karl-Magnus Karlsson

Great as always dudes, I’d rate my beta experience 4/4 as well, despite numerous bus and some fps issues. The game as it stands is kickass, This is a total newbie in the genre speaking.

My favorite bug is definetly invisible Bastila in the Council Chambers when playing Jedi Knight. Classic. The orange pixel also. May it rest in peace.
- http://www.facebook.com/BrianOrr.Author Brian Orr
  
  More than likely she wasn’t invisible but like 3 inches tall. I thought the same thing when I saw the bug, but then the camera switched to show her super tiny standing in her chair. Oh and it isn’t Bastila, it’s Shateel Shan (Spelling??) Bastila’s Great Great Great Grand-daughter.
http://twitter.com/Thaguf Thaguf

Great Episode
http://twitter.com/Thaguf Thaguf

Great Episode
Gerhard Rollinger

If they have expansions probably there’ll be C.E.s too. You guys think that there’ll be another merchant and the one from the standard edition will be useless? Or maybe you could gain access to the merchant with the expansion and he will be updated for classic buyers and the new ones…
Gerhard Rollinger

If they have expansions probably there’ll be C.E.s too. You guys think that there’ll be another merchant and the one from the standard edition will be useless? Or maybe you could gain access to the merchant with the expansion and he will be updated for classic buyers and the new ones…
Nelfein

I watched Ed’s vid on his blog on Rift keybindings (you mentioned it the post show footage on the stream) – it’s realy interesting.

Perhaps Ed could elaborate on that in SWTOR mechanics, perhaps on his blog or something. I know you said he’ll talk about it in tonights Sanctum (I’ll definetly watch that), but it’s still Rift and in beta for me it was far different in class mechanics from my previous MMOs. Some elements are just not to clear for me. Like “a” – closing gap… heck I’m not sure what that should mean in here yes, I’m not much of a pvp guy and I modified my keybindings in WoW and SWTOR beta just a bit when compared to Ed’s layout

Btw. Ed – does it work well on PvE aswell? And did you (if at all) find it difficult to transfer this method to a healer (as the layout seems to be dps focused).

Anyways – cheers for a great show
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Ed Park ⚔
  
  >> Btw. Ed – does it work well on PvE aswell? And did you (if at all) find
  it difficult to transfer this method to a healer (as the layout seems to
  be dps focused).
  
  For The Sanctum 43 (next week’s RIFT episode), I’ll create 2 different keybinding examples, one for DPS and one for healer.
  
  And yes, I used to play a lot of PVE, I had to cut that out due to RL time constraints. But I plan to PVE in SWTOR given that I’m trying to transition to gaming coverage being my full-time gig.
  - Nelfein
    
    heh, I
    always thought about doing this, but it’s kinda impossible here in Poland
    but thanks for the replay and gl with your plan +1 for that Ed
Anonymous

I watched Ed’s vid on his blog on Rift keybindings (you mentioned it the post show footage on the stream) – it’s realy interesting.

Perhaps Ed could elaborate on that in SWTOR mechanics, perhaps on his blog or something. I know you said he’ll talk about it in tonights Sanctum (I’ll definetly watch that), but some elements are not to clear for me. Like “a” – closing gap… heck I’m not sure what that should mean in here yes, I’m not much of a pvp guy and I modified my keybindings in WoW and SWTOR beta just a bit when compared to Ed’s layout

Anyways – cheers for a great show
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Taugrim (Ed Park)
  
  >> Btw. Ed – does it work well on PvE aswell? And did you (if at all) find
  it difficult to transfer this method to a healer (as the layout seems to
  be dps focused).
  
  For The Sanctum 43 (next week’s RIFT episode), I’ll create 2 different keybinding examples, one for DPS and one for healer.
  
  And yes, I used to play a lot of PVE, I had to cut that out due to RL time constraints. But I plan to PVE in SWTOR given that I’m trying to transition to gaming coverage being my full-time gig.
  - Anonymous
    
    heh, I
    always thought about doing this, but it’s kinda impossible here in Poland
    but thanks for the replay and gl with your plan +1 for that Ed
http://twitter.com/cyanerd Prostyle

Gary holding REAL paper…. PRICELESS!
http://twitter.com/cyanerd Pro Style

Gary holding REAL paper…. PRICELESS!
http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Burst/100002070336564 Daniel Burst

The orange pixel was given the name “Darth Pixel” by the players in the SWTOR Forums.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=803762169 Stephen Favell
  
  I thought it was called OPOD? Orange pixel of doom.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Burst/100002070336564 Daniel Burst

The orange pixel was given the name “Darth Pixel” by the players in the SWTOR Forums.
- http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=803762169 Stephen Favell
  
  I thought it was called OPOD? Orange pixel of doom.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=803762169 Stephen Favell

Activision partnerrs up with Lucusarts for The force unleashed, Lego starwars and lego indianna jones. Thats what i could find in 2 mins anyway lol.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=803762169 Stephen Favell

Activision partnerrs up with Lucusarts for The force unleashed, Lego starwars and lego indianna jones. Thats what i could find in 2 mins anyway lol.
http://www.facebook.com/andreas.o.michelsen Andreas Olsen Michelsen

What….. 10 days early access ???? rly, the live is 20th dec and early is 15th dec, but its even earlyer now??
- http://twitter.com/Cardonwow Derp
  
  They meant 10 days to early access from the end of beta. (beta ended 5th, access starts 15th)
scottsummer

I don’t want a Mass Effect MMO as well.
If Bioware ever make another MMO, i honestly prefer something other than Sci-Fi.
- TheDude4bides
  
  It would be a bad business decision to do a Mass Effect MMO at this point, as the property is similar enough to KOTOR and would cannibalize TOR’s subscribers.
- Soupmaster101
  
  They do have experience with Dragon Age 1. Not 2 since 1 acts more like a MMO gameplay wise.
http://www.facebook.com/andreas.o.michelsen Andreas Olsen Michelsen

What….. 10 days early access ???? rly, the live is 20th dec and early is 15th dec, but its even earlyer now??
- http://twitter.com/Cardonwow Mattias Lagerqvist
  
  They meant 10 days to early access from the end of beta. (beta ended 5th, access starts 15th)
Anonymous

I don’t want a Mass Effect MMO as well.
If Bioware ever make another MMO, i honestly prefer something other than Sci-Fi.
- Kelly Sheffield
  
  It would be a bad business decision to do a Mass Effect MMO at this point, as the property is similar enough to KOTOR and would cannibalize TOR’s subscribers.
- Anonymous
  
  They do have experience with Dragon Age 1. Not 2 since 1 acts more like a MMO gameplay wise.
http://twitter.com/Canisrah Shane

Bring back the old music. Just cant get into the new intro music!
http://twitter.com/Canisrah Shane Cunningham

Bring back the old music. Just cant get into the new intro music!
Soupmaster101

great episode. I am getting my new Laptop this week which I am excited for.
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Ed Park ⚔
  
  What kind did you buy?
  
  I got a Sager NP8130 at the recommendation of a friend who owns one, and it rocks.
  - Soupmaster101
    
    I actually got a Sager NP8130 too. After seeing positive reviews about it, especially having relative low temperatures, I decided to get one. I was glad that you and I believe Gary were using the Sager NP8130, and I am glad that you say it rocks. Now i feel satisfied with my purchase.
Anonymous

great episode. I am getting my new Laptop this week which I am excited for.
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Taugrim (Ed Park)
  
  What kind did you buy?
  
  I got a Sager NP8130 at the recommendation of a friend who owns one, and it rocks.
  - Anonymous
    
    I actually got a Sager NP8130 too. After seeing positive reviews about it, especially having relative low temperatures, I decided to get one. I was glad that you and I believe Gary were using the Sager NP8130, and I am glad that you say it rocks. Now i feel satisfied with my purchase.
Kagitaar

I’m happy about the leveling speed change just speaking as a SI, though not for the same reason as Larry. I got to 10 just fine (though that may have been to my obsessive search for holocrons), BUT I was having a terrible time in Naga Sadow’s tomb, right before you get Khem Val. Those droid and acolyte packs were just brutal, every fight I was at sub 20% hp; light armor plus 5 packs were a real challenge that my smuggler and BH did not have at that level.

The thing about the mail lag in WoW is that they’ve effectively removed it now, so I think it’s kind of pointless if not a big deal.
Anonymous

I’m happy about the leveling speed change just speaking as a SI, though not for the same reason as Larry. I got to 10 just fine (though that may have been to my obsessive search for holocrons), BUT I was having a terrible time in Naga Sadow’s tomb, right before you get Khem Val. Those droid and acolyte packs were just brutal, every fight I was at sub 20% hp; light armor plus 5 packs were a real challenge that my smuggler and BH did not have at that level.

The thing about the mail lag in WoW is that they’ve effectively removed it now, so I think it’s kind of pointless if not a big deal.
RandomBoredDude

Taugrim’s reply to agent vs consular video made me laugh so hard. Nicely done sir !
Anonymous

Taugrim’s reply to agent vs consular video made me laugh so hard. Nicely done sir !
RandomBoredDude

Taugrim’s reply to agent vs consular video made me laugh so hard. Nicely done sir !
Anonymous

Taugrim’s reply to agent vs consular video made me laugh so hard. Nicely done sir !
Chris Ramby

Kotick is money grubbing a**hole responsible for the ongoing destruction of World of Warcraft. To Kotick money > quality games. Die in a fire bro.
Chris Ramby

Kotick is money grubbing a**hole responsible for the ongoing destruction of World of Warcraft. To Kotick money > quality games. Die in a fire bro.
Mr. Ares

Lol, love how he keeps calling Pachter Patcher. And while Pachter knows his shit, he’s also known for just saying whatever he wants. Pretty much anything he says to media (remember he’s an investment advisor) is either just to make a headline or to screw with people.
Mr. Ares

Lol, love how he keeps calling Pachter Patcher. And while Pachter knows his shit, he’s also known for just saying whatever he wants. Pretty much anything he says to media (remember he’s an investment advisor) is either just to make a headline or to screw with people.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=862175353 Gavin Morgan

Gary I noticed that you were alot more excited about this episode than the last legendary.
Is this a personal feeling towards wanting to play SWTOR more than WoW now.
- InvaderMig
  
  He doesn’t even play wow anymore lol.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=862175353 Gavin Morgan

Gary I noticed that you were alot more excited about this episode than the last legendary.
Is this a personal feeling towards wanting to play SWTOR more than WoW now.
- Anonymous
  
  He doesn’t even play wow anymore lol.
http://twitter.com/ErikB87 Erik Bjørbæk

cant wait to see this show and these guys in 8 months!:P Will be great to see how they are when the game isnt “the best mmo made ever”
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Taugrim (Ed Park)
  
  double post
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Taugrim (Ed Park)
  
  It’s always funny to me how people try to de-hype games like this, instead of trying to provide real insight as to why they believe an upcoming game isn’t any good.
  
  I was *highly* skeptical of SWTOR before trying it, especially when comparing simple things (e.g. the spec system) against RIFT and the fact that BW had not launched an MMORPG.
  
  I’ve been trying to find a game to stick with for 1+ years without having any doubt about the game’s direction. RIFT was looking great until Patch 1.5 (and 1.6) went live. If not for 1.5, I’d still be content in RIFT-land. My original plan was to skip SWTOR and try GW2, especially as I’m more of a classic fantasy setting fan. So in a way I can thank Trion for getting me to pull my attention out of the weeds and look at SWTOR.
  
  Btw, I’m planning on trying GW2 when it launches, and I say this preemptively because I already know how some people will react when I play / blog about GW2. Decision’s already been made for me. I’m trying both, no reason not to, esp as GW2 has no monthly sub.
  
  Some day gamers will get over their myopic view of advocating one game while dinging every new. This is what some people don’t grasp. Having *multiple* attractive gaming options is *great* for gamers. As I wrote on my blog yesterday, 2011 is the first year in a long time where the MMORPG made huge strides:
  http://taugrim.com/2011/12/06/2011-bounceback-year-for-the-mmorpg-industry/
  
  So IMO we should be glad that companies such as Trion and BioWare had and will likely have a successful launch in 2011.
  
  Mo’ successful launches => more money invested for new games => more options for gamers
  - http://www.facebook.com/WhiskeyTears John Fowler
    
    Great reply man. I am looking forward to both games and will probably play both as well. I too am sick and tired of the people that say SWTOR will fail. Heck I saw a post on the General forums of SWTOR from some guy claiming that 99% of the beta testers never made it to level 25 because the game sucked. I would love to know where he is getting his or her information from. I look forward to your videos and I am already spreading their awesomeness to my friend who will be playing SWTOR.
    - http://twitter.com/taugrim Taugrim (Ed Park)
      
      > I too am sick and tired of the people that say SWTOR will fail
      
      I’m tired of people saying XYZ game will fail, when their motivation behind saying so is because of an existing game they play.
      
      But anyway, I’m all for there being more good games to choose from. Devs win = gamers win
http://twitter.com/crusadernero Crusadernero

cant wait to see this show and these guys in 8 months!:P Will be great to see how they are when the game isnt “the best mmo made ever”
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Ed Park ⚔
  
  double post
- http://twitter.com/taugrim Ed Park ⚔
  
  It’s always funny to me how people try to de-hype games like this, instead of trying to provide real insight as to why they believe an upcoming game isn’t any good.
  
  I was *highly* skeptical of SWTOR before trying it, especially when comparing simple things (e.g. the spec system) against RIFT and the fact that BW had not launched an MMORPG.
  
  I’ve been trying to find a game to stick with for 1+ years without having any doubt about the game’s direction. RIFT was looking great until Patch 1.5 (and 1.6) went live. If not for 1.5, I’d still be content in RIFT-land. My original plan was to skip SWTOR and try GW2, especially as I’m more of a classic fantasy setting fan. So in a way I can thank Trion for getting me to pull my attention out of the weeds and look at SWTOR.
  
  Btw, I’m planning on trying GW2 when it launches, and I say this preemptively because I already know how some people will react when I play / blog about GW2. Decision’s already been made for me. I’m trying both, no reason not to, esp as GW2 has no monthly sub.
  
  Some day gamers will get over their myopic view of advocating one game while dinging every new. This is what some people don’t grasp. Having *multiple* attractive gaming options is *great* for gamers. As I wrote on my blog yesterday, 2011 is the first year in a long time where the MMORPG made huge strides:
  http://taugrim.com/2011/12/06/2011-bounceback-year-for-the-mmorpg-industry/
  
  So IMO we should be glad that companies such as Trion and BioWare had and will likely have a successful launch in 2011.
  
  Mo’ successful launches => more money invested for new games => more options for gamers
  - http://www.facebook.com/WhiskeyTears John Fowler
    
    Great reply man. I am looking forward to both games and will probably play both as well. I too am sick and tired of the people that say SWTOR will fail. Heck I saw a post on the General forums of SWTOR from some guy claiming that 99% of the beta testers never made it to level 25 because the game sucked. I would love to know where he is getting his or her information from. I look forward to your videos and I am already spreading their awesomeness to my friend who will be playing SWTOR.
    - http://twitter.com/taugrim Ed Park ⚔
      
      > I too am sick and tired of the people that say SWTOR will fail
      
      I’m tired of people saying XYZ game will fail, when their motivation behind saying so is because of an existing game they play.
      
      But anyway, I’m all for there being more good games to choose from. Devs win = gamers win
Jirikisunta

Great episode, as always.
Jirikisunta

Great episode, as always.
http://twitter.com/DarranHall Darran Hall

great show, but Gary, when are we getting the other class videos
- http://twitter.com/taugrim ⚔ Ed Park
  
  I don’t think we set the expectation that we’d cover all 8 of the ACs per se
  
  That being said, we’ll be posting Shadow and Vanguard PVP videos soon.
  
  You can find them on my blog (http://taugrim.com) or wait for them to get posted on GAMEBREAKER.
http://twitter.com/DarranHall Darran Hall

great show, but Gary, when are we getting the other class videos
http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcelo-Linhares/100000041974498 Marcelo Linhares

It was such a turn down to realize I’ll have to wait for this to be launch in my region in order for me to play Sorta made me give up of it.
- Lee Launay
  
  Just order it online? Amazon etc
http://www.facebook.com/people/Marcelo-Linhares/100000041974498 Marcelo Linhares

It was such a turn down to realize I’ll have to wait for this to be launch in my region in order for me to play Sorta made me give up of it.
- Lee Launay
  
  Just order it online? Amazon etc
James McLean

What is that video the show that has the celebration song, confetti and “December 20th, 2011!!!!!” in red letters?
James McLean

What is that video shown that has the celebration song, confetti and “December 20th, 2011!!!!!” in red letters?

Trash Talkin' TOR - Star Wars The Old Republic - Jedi Consular vs Imperial Agent

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