This Week In MMO Ep115 Endangered Pandas?

I was vocal one years before release on combat and design issue I thought would be a problem and I was very detailed about it. I also bickered at the lack of details on how the game combat was from a more player based perspective and a CM or dev replied to me. It was very reprimanding “you are wrong” attitude like I struck a chord with them or something.

I seen them do the same for other vocal player’s disappointments, I think they just flat out ignored negative critique dismissing us as asshats, not genuinely concerned.

I disagree with Pokket on comparing the value against a movie. What it should be compared to is other video games. There is not a single subscription fee MMO out there that you get enough content to justify $180 a year, that is three full retail games. Plus not only do they expect you to pay the price of three retail games a year, but $40 or $50 regularly for expansions on top of that.

I just won’t ever pay a subscription fee again. A subscription based game holds the game you paid $60 for hostage with a $15 subscription fee, no other game does that. The idea of a subscription fee for MMORPGs was invented to pay for exceptionally expensive servers and bandwidth back before the internet had progressed to the state it is now. Now it is just a way for them to get basically empty profit at the expense of their player base.

Love you guys – love this show.

Blue hair is completely natural to Twimmo fans.

I go to the movies so i can hang out with my friends face to face and have fun. I don’t know why people compare that to mmo’s all the time. Maybe they each sit in a different section of the theater and text each other about the movie and then go home without ever actually speaking to one another.

Gary. I need your personal opinion on this, because I think it’s an awesome idea. I think GW2 would benefit from having something like extensive touristy airship rides – not something that you need to do to travel around, but just something so that players can be tourists in the game and see the world from the air. Obviously they should charge quite a lot for a ride so that players don’t swamp it, but I think it would be really cool to see airships flying in and out of the major cities, and it may just make the world feel more alive and complete – not that it doesn’t already. Okay I’m going to shut up now.

I dont understand what pocket did during her h, i farmed mining/herbing for 5h and im over halfway to 87.

It is funny how we argue if WoW has more oe less then 10million subs, but we know it is around that. It has a lot of subs! lol

I swear you can’t ever please anybody. We cry if the leveling takes to long, we cry if leveling is too fast. We cry if there is not enough content, we cry if there is too much. I hate to burst all you GW2 lovers bubbles, but GW2 is just as boring at max level as WoW. At least WoW gives you raids to play at max level. Oh I’m sorry when you are max level in GW2 you can start grinding for your near impossible legendary weapon. That idea has me so excited that I have to sit on my hands to keep from waving at people.

GW2 took a week to max level, 2 more weeks to get max level gear.  Played WvW in the 2nd World Ranked Alliance in the game and am now bored with nothing to do.  WvW is just a large Battleground over and over again playing for a scoreboard. Went back to LoL non-stop everyday and having a TON of fun.  Just waiting till Darkfall 2.0: Unholy Wars to come out on Novemeber 20th and then BIG BOY PvP can be on again.  GW2 made great changes to mainstream MMOs, just no raid content and no real open world PvP, just a instance that isn’t that big.

Sounds like Blizzard and WoW are doing fine but it will be interesting to hear what is said at the stockholder meeting.  Jason brought up a good point about press releases but then Gary’s idea that the BS all normalizes itself probably works.   
 
Funcom just keeps showing how clueless and deluded they really are with those interviews.   Good lord what a whiner.    Smaller companies need to have realistic expectations, that’s how they can get into a genre that is expensive and incredibly risk.   Recently Funcom has only beeing showing how they know how to fail at making MMOs.   If a company doesn’t have the aptitude, maybe they shouldn’t be in the business.       

Good point about the forums Hillary, it seem impossible to think SW’s beta forums were so amazingly positive unless the devs were deliberately ignoring the negative.  TBH – the Funcom devs were one of the reasons I never followed Secret World.   I could see signs of this same clueless attitude back in Age of Conan’s development.    I don’t care how good a game might be, an MMO
is an ongoing service and it needs developers who aren’t clueless.   There are too many of those kind of devs in the MMO industry.