This Week In MMO: TERA Impressions

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Posted: February 18, 2012 9:52 pm
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En Masse Entertainment‘s premiere MMO TERA began its beta this week, and our panel had a chance to grab first impressions of the game. The good: Character creator actually impressed. The sliders and other customization tools were varied enough without going too far. Even without the current high resolution graphics, Mike B said that the Unreal Engine never looked so good. Given that, however, the animations rooted the player to one spot causing the action-combat to feel a bit stiff. But that’s is not the worst part… Gary Gannon coined one phrase to describe the writing and in-game dialogue: “TERA-ble.”

With the number of MMOs growing by leaps and bounds, it’s nearly impossible to keep up with everything. That is why Gary Gannon has gather media experts Mike B and Mike Schaffnit to keep you informed about the latest information pouring from your favorite online games. Do not miss a single episode of This Week In MMO!

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  • Nhoj1983

    Have to say my experience wasn’t as bad. My thing is.. all mmos.. in one way or another masks the “repetition” to the game. This includes WoW, SWTOR, (instert mmo here). I actually like to put on a audio book and spend time doing tasks while talking to my guildies. I found SWTOR restrictive because it forced your attention on what you were doing.. away from your guildies and the environment. That and I loved the way my chara looked. Something no other game than L2 has truly worked for me. My tastes are different.. my first mmo was L2 and ever since I’ve found my point of view scewed. Still.. I think that the gameplay is something most anyone can enjoy. I LOVED tanking… I LOVED healing.. I LOVED the pvp… and I LOVED the world.

  • Improstor

    Massive hate for action PvP oriented game from guy who even shouldn’t touch this genre.. Stay with the quests, we all knows its only feature about MMOs for you. This nonsence is turning other then SWTOR and propably GW2 shows to trash.

    Free to play?.. Really, cause it has no full story like the recently released game that has ONLY the story and everything else is useless crap? I choose better combat over stupid voiceover.

    Jumping is simply prevention for ranged classes being OPed in PvP. Hitboxes are issue indeed.

    • Arkanthos

       i want both for full price and subs, they have valid points

      • Iamdath

        Then literally every MMO that has ever been released should be F2P, in your opinion. If you want both story and gameplay, then there is no MMO for you as of yet. SWTOR’s average story (meaning above average for an MMO) is mixed with mediocre gameplay, whilst WoW’s mediocre in both ways.

    • samhainous

      Hard to understand your points because words are missing and sentences don’t make sense. I can overlook spelling because that’s just laziness, but “This nonsence is turning other then SWTOR and propably GW2 shows to trash.” is nonsense. It is interesting that you complain about them trashing a game you obviously have a lot of money, time, and investment in but the last line sounds like a design flaw with the jumping, and you even say that the hitboxes are an issue. Which tells me that you agree with what some of what they had to say. When does a person get too old for fanboy immaturity anyway?

  • youguyssuck

    You guys sound like you never played a MMO before.  I dont know how anyone watches this show.  I dont, someone linked me.  I will make sure not to watch from now on.

    • http://twitter.com/Critzkreig Cody Moody

      trolololo

      • hey

        Not trolling, they seem like they just get paid to positively review shit games, like SW:TOR for example and then they just bash TERA whilst barely playing at all.

    • iamthemikeb

      yay first troll!

  • http://www.facebook.com/jetmorph Jason Taylor

    I had a very similar experience in tera, thus far i am not impressed.

  • http://twitter.com/viion Josh Freeman

    I ended up cancelling my pre-order because the quest repetition was just boring the hell out of me. The game looks fantastic, the combat I do enjoy, but I believe it has nothing really interesting, it was boring very fast.

    • Dude

      You obviously never got off the newbie island. Good job at not know what the games about.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/K4T7EIJ3MGNJF5SM2ISDDDBHVY Nick

      Oh just like ToR doesnt do this? or Rift please cry me a river. Its a MMO GW2 will have this same issue and might add some other stuff to hide the questing style your QQing about but there not much you can do

    • Iamdath

      I’d like you to name a non-repetitious questing MMO. Yes, the tutorial island was linear, and most of the rest of the CBT was, which was to level 22, but I reached that in less than half a day of playing, so Ionno how impatient you must be to lose patience in an MMO within a day of questing.

  • Kazedori

    Its a real shame you are not giving the game a real chance.  I agree the quest text is skipable but its that way in most MMOs.
    The big issue over not being able to jump and shoot behind you is actually wrong. It can be done but you do not need to jump. The settings let you choose to fire where the camera is pointing or where character is pointing.  Chose camera. Strafe or run away, aim camera view at target. Hit the attack and you will instantly point at target and execute the attack. resume moving in the original direction.
    The stop to fire is annoying but replaces a cast bar.
    The action ramps up every 10 levels. 1-10 is simple learn the ropes. 11-19 ramps up.
    20+ introduces the BAMs, world bosses and the 1st instance. These bosses can 1 shot characters with certain attacks.  Forget to clear a room and the mobs add in during the dungeon boss fight.
    Healing is a brand new experience in this game. I have not had so much fun in an MMO since my first MMO EQ1.
    SWTOR is exact opposite, great quests lines and mediocre boring same old  fighting. Tera same old questing and very exciting battles once the game ramps up.
    Give it a fair shot.

    • Roger McKay

       I plan on trying it in beta, but I am not playign SWTOR, and I think I might pass on Tera, as well. I will wait for an MMO that does BOTH well. Story AND combat.

      • rexzshadow

         Gl with that, i wonder if you remotely understand the cost to make a mmorpg is, and for blue hole this is their first game, they have no funding from other well established game to draw from. For their very first game they done it pretty fcking well.

        • Roger McKay

           I don’t care. If they want people’s money, they had better put out a good product. They are a for-profit company, not a charity.

  • Krenian

    I’ll be honest: this is the first time that I have been disappointed in any of Gamebreaker’s shows. 

    I’ve watched every single show on here and this has been probably the most biased one that I have seen. Furthermore, Gary did not even get passed level 11 which means that he’s played half of the CB and expects to know enough about the game. Sorry Gary, but I completely disagree. Get to level 22, then you might have had some credibility here.

    Yes, the fact that you are stopping when you are attacking can be annoying, but nothing as annoying as most games with either charged cast times or other technologies. So far, however, it seems that the biggest gripe is the story being lacking. So…22 levels in the game and you can fully give me a story as to what is going on? It’s the first freaking CB of a game being ported from Korea. You might want to wait till OB before blasting the story. You know, at the time where the game is actually getting ready to release live.

    I normally agree with a lot of points you guys have made for your shows. But this one, I will respectfully disagree with and hope you guys stop critiquing a game where most sites such as Massively, TenTonHammer and other MMO related websites have given the game a strong showing for it’s first CB and did hammer out some imperfections in the game. You guys just practically slammed the game stating that it’s, in Gary’s terms “TERA-ble.” 

    Seriously? I would honestly suggest you wait till Open Beta before you slam the game. Furthermore, you might want to actually put some time in a beta instead of just giving up after one character at half the CB’s level.

    Very disappointing episode. 

    • samhainous

       So it’s a disappointing ep because they don’t agree with you or other websites? That is vexing. Comparisons to what other mmo’s have and to what TERA lacks isn’t being biased. Maybe if Gary worked on other games, you could say he was biased to them, but he has no stakes with devs or publishers. These shows are here for news and opinions. They don’t tell you what to think or what to like and to be “disappointed” seems a bit silly.
      You even say:
      “Yes, the fact that you are stopping when you are attacking can be annoying…”
      So you’re even annoyed with it but still mad at a show for their opinions?
       How much work do you think can be done in less than 3 months? How many things are they going to add or fix in another couple months when the game goes OB (I don’t know if it is or not)? Gary played enough to get to level 11. That’s not a lot of time put in sure, but how much time is needed to form an opinion? He played what he played and didn’t like it. So what.
      Here is how you split the difference when somebody disses something you’re into: Realize that it’s their opinion, and they have a right to it. If they start crapping on you directly (saying you’re dumb for liking something they think is crap) then that invalidates their whole argument because it’s no longer about the subject matter it’s about an opinion that won’t matter in 5-10 years anyway because there will be something else to talk about!
       So if you like TERA, by all means enjoy. I haven’t touched it but if and when an open beta comes around I would give it a shot just because I like playing video games in general.

      • Krenian

        No, I have no issues with them having a different opinion than the general websites out there or with the fact that they don’t like the game. Don’t get me wrong, I’m fully aware that different strokes for different folks is an adequate statement for video games.

        The problem I have is that Gary didn’t even bother getting to level 22 which was the cap of the game before deciding the game was terrible. We’re in the first CB and not even half the game is unlocked and already, he believes the game is terrible? Sorry, 11 levels take about two hours. Three or four if you take your time. It is not conclusive enough to make an opinion about an entire game and say that it’s terrible. 

        Yes, there are things to be fixed. I’ve highlighted my own comments in my own blog on what they need to fix. Yes, the story seems lacking. Yes, there are some kinks to work out.

        You seem to believe I’m disappointed in the episode because they did not like the game. Hardly. I’m more disappointed in the episode because, frankly, the host of the show made an opinion on a game he didn’t even push hard to finish. I can understand that if it was a full out game, released with all content, that after a few hours, you can safely say “Yeah this is bad” and step away. That’s because you know the game will be like this. But as you stated, there is three months worth of feedback that will be given. And a lot ‘can’ be done if you have good, solid work ethics at the company to deliver a package that is good for all. 

        Please try to understand that this isn’t a slight to Gamebreaker or the hosts or anything of the sort. Like I said, I’ve followed every episode of GB.TV since the start. I just find it slightly concerning that a site that is gaining ground as a leading source of MMO information goes out and pretty much trashes a game, stating that they don’t like it after playing 11 levels and one CB. Gary can have his right to state that he doesn’t enjoy the game, but to claim it terrible on the first CB out is pretty much not giving it a chance and going into that decision knowingly.

        I’ve got nothing but respect for Gary but I would have preferred him taking a bit more of a subtle route and not going out and stating the game was terrible due to the fact he dropped out at level 11. I’m sorry, but there is a difference between a CB and a released game. Having played enough betas, you can see a shift from the first CB.

        If every problem in the game remains come OB? Then I will fully agree with Gary and say that the game is lacking in some areas. But in a CB, it’s hard to really sit there and analyze everything and say this is how the game is gonna come out. Either way, I respect his opinion about the game and can understand where he’s coming from, and simply hope that he will decide again come OB and see if it works for him. If not, then fine, the game ain’t for him. But to trash the game and say it’s bad, …well…sorry, I don’t like that. It doesn’t sit well with me.

        • http://twitter.com/yarb23 Yadiel A. Ramírez

           Well dude then just respond like “OMG GARY LVL UP MORE AND YOU MAY LIKE IT” Not just form a response “I’m dissapointed” that’s a bit silly..

          • Krenian

            Well no, I’m not going to say that. I’m going to speak my mind and I think the hosts have thick enough skins to be critiqued on their shows. Again, love the hosts but I think they jumped the gun a bit too fast on the game. 

            I am not going to hide behind nice words and say the above. I’m going to state that I am disappointed in this episode and list my reasons in hopes that future episodes do not miss the target.

            Also, it can seem that I’m being a White Knight for this game but honestly, I’m just trying to show people who are ragging on TERA to perhaps give it more of a chance instead of just one CB and making an uninformed opinion about the game. If the game was in OB and like this, then yeah, I’d be right up there critiquing the game about it’s faults. 

            But we’re so quick on categorizing a ‘good’ MMO and a ‘bad’ MMO since the World of Warcraft days that we don’t even have any more patience when it comes to this. 

            That’s what is annoying about all this. I know Mike’s in for the long haul and bought the box set. So at least Mike will keep at it until he can’t do it. Although, after seeing GW2 and Mike’s video….TERA has a few things they need to look at from GW2 such as allowing more fluid fights and not locking you into place.

          • http://www.facebook.com/LobselVith Lobsel Vith

            called they are paid to trash talk Tera, why else would they lvl to 11 and then say they know all about it and say mostly bad about it,  when all the ppl that gave Tera the full treatment in beta 1 all the way to lvl 22 and loved it!

            funny how the host said Terable in the show he is such a sell-out..

        • Kristine

          Level 22 was the exact same thing as level 11. Nothing changed. It was the same boring grindfest and kill 10 rats, only they were elite rats.

          • Krenian

            BAMs would like to talk to you. There is a lot more that you seem to just generalize. Yes, the questing sucks. I’ve admitted this already. It’s already been told to EME about how the questing is stale and doesn’t include you in the world. The point of TERA is to actually play the game as a True-Action Combat RPG and the focus is more towards the ending. And also, you have…what…about a quarter of the game unlocked at most? 

            Again, you’re putting an opinion on a game that isn’t even open fully and doesn’t have all it’s ideas implemented yet. Unless you played in the Korean version (which is changed from this US version to help westernize the game), then honestly, no one knows how it’s going to play out.

          • http://www.facebook.com/LobselVith Lobsel Vith

            I have to agree with you the show sucked,  Tera is way better then they give it credit, I’ve played the Beta 1 till lvl22 and was having a blast all the way, and sure maybe questing was not the best,  but tell me what game doesn’t have bad questing?   most mmo’s are about the same in this area.
            swtor only difference is voice acting, but if you ask me that makes for lazy gamers playing a game that is far more theme park then all others that came before it.

          • Roger McKay

             Does Tera have a personal quest storyline like SWTOR has?  Now, I was not enthusiastic about the voice acting before trying the SWTOR beta, but it DOES make a difference. There are still plenty of things I dislike about SWTOR, but the early game PvE leveling was the best I have played. The voiced cutscenes DO improve the experience.

          • rexzshadow

             Right that last you about 2 weeks before your capped and become total meanless. Sure it was interesting like a single player game, but it doesn’t keep players.

          • Roger McKay

             I agree, The cutscenes won’t keep people playing after level cap.

          • rexzshadow

             Sure it helps, but we all know everyone going to cap in 1-2 month and lot of people just skip it because they are in a rush to cap. It doesn’t help retain player once they hit end game.

          • Krenian

            SWTOR will fall under that same trap that if they don’t throw new story out as fast as possible, there is nothing that will make people want to play the game other than tab through 70% of the story. And then you are left with some stuff lacking.

            Lore and MikeB pretty much stated their reasons why they weren’t playing right now. The game is polished, and the story is great…but it feels like a MSPRPG; read as Massively Single Player Roleplaying Game. It’s not an MMO in the traditional sense and SWTOR kinda loses it’s way in the MMO genre because you can do EVERYTHING on your own save 4 man stuff. And even some classes can. 

            Look, I played SWTOR for two months, got a Jedi Sentinel to level 50, and then got to 50 and went..Oh…well that’s a shame. I’m doing dailies and waiting for everyone else to level up to 50 so I can run dungeon, get gear..wait…That’s just like…World of Warcraft! And unfortunately, I was not in the mood to redo that.

            TERA offers guild Player versus Player, A political system that can allow you to go around and be social and make people vote for you, and will have your traditional dungeons and hard mode dungeons for the loot. It has more options that we have seen than in most games out that have been released. SWTOR can be a strong game and has a great fanbase but until it decides to add more endgame, it’s going to be pretty blah.

            And to me, I’m done with just running raids in the end. I’m wanting something different. Something more. Story will get me going but I don’t feel like having to do story all the time. And yes, the voiceover was very well done in SWTOR but it was an added perk for me; not a “omfg all games must be like this now.” Most of the time, I prefer just muting the sound if it gets annoying (And if TERA doesn’t do something about the annoying voices, I WILL do the same. God awful sound..), and that defeats voiceover for a game. 

            Personal storyline be damned, I want something new. I’m not in the mood for the same thing. And that’s what RIFT and TERA have had. Granted, GW2 is also breaking the mold when it comes to leveling…but again, I’m waiting for the Endgame stuff to see what they plan on doing. 

          • http://twitter.com/Feothyr Carsten L.

            There is no such thing as endgame in Guild Wars 2. Endgame starts at Lv 1. The game is not going to change into something completely different as soon as you hit Lv 80.

          • http://www.facebook.com/LobselVith Lobsel Vith

            I have to agree with you the show sucked,  Tera is way better then they give it credit, I’ve played the Beta 1 till lvl22 and was having a blast all the way, and sure maybe questing was not the best,  but tell me what game doesn’t have bad questing?   most mmo’s are about the same in this area.
            swtor only difference is voice acting, but if you ask me that makes for lazy gamers playing a game that is far more theme park then all others that came before it.

          • basmithtx

            BAMs are just mini bosses, they’re not a fundamental game changer.

            There was no need to “get to 22″ in the beta as the game isn’t fundamentally different at that point.  Further, “suffering” through subpar content to get to some later-game promised-land is rather unappealing to many players (Gary alludes to this multiple times).

            >”The point of TERA is to actually play the game as a True-Action Combat RPG”

            And this isn’t working out well, as Mike B mentions with the basic jump-turn-attack sequence not working and various bits of animation rooting, hitboxes, etc.

            Besides the basic jingoism that seems to be building up around “True Action Combat”, it seems silly to have the game tunnel-vision this small aspect to the detriment the various other aspects that players look for in MMOs.

            >”the focus is more towards the ending”

            Is this really a flimsy rationalization for subpar early- and midgame gameplay?

            >”no one knows how it’s going to play out”

            …yes, but it should be self-evident that this is irrelevant.  They/we have access to the beta, so that’s what is being discussed and evaluated.  Nobody is stamping a final verdict here.

            Gary illustrates several times his preferences for games, and explains that is the origin of his displeasure.  Any rational person will presumably take this into consideration when evaluating their statements.  I haven’t seen any chicanery here or wholly unqualified or unsubstantiated complaints.

          • Krenian

            It is perhaps unappealing to you but as a person that requires to give their unbiased opinion, I somewhat expect them to play through the whole content when it’s easy enough to do so, then give their ideas. He did not, and decided to label it as “TERA-ble.” To me, that’s not giving it even remotely a chance. So yes, there was a ‘need’ to get to 22 because it would have added more substance to his opinion. To me, it hurts Gary to say that because it holds absolutely no credibility to me. It isn’t the idea that the game doesn’t change even at 22. It’s the fact he STOPPED at 11 and gave that opinion, without knowing if further down the road it changes. And unfortunately, it does. when the dungeons start opening up and BAMs make appearance, the game starts taking a different direction.

            Turn attack sequence are absolutely silly to me. That’s a matter of preference. If you like that, then so be it, but unless you’re a ranger/archer, I completely and utterly disagree with a huge individual with a two handed weapon swinging in the air while flipping around. It also adds a level of difficulty and makes you not jump around like a crazy frog trying to confuse people. It’s probably one of the things in World of Warcraft that has rubbed me the wrong way, personally. But again, that’s a personal opinion. To me, I completely and utterly agree with the no jumping turning attack sequence. I do agree, however, that strafe attacking SHOULD be in the game as this is actually a fundamental trait of certain classes such as the Archer. Not having this limits their power sometimes. Animation rooting adds a level of difficulty that pretty much establishes the following: Do you decide to go with a move or do you decide to bypass it and make sure you don’t get hit when doing said move. It adds the threat of danger and the reaction time has to be precise. See? Argument for it. There are always two ways to see something. A LOT of people are not seeing it from the above point though which is disappointing, to say the least. Also, they are the only ones I know out of the reviews out there that have an issue with this. So I’m kinda weighing every piece of information about the game and saying “Well, it can’t be that bad of an issue.” Just food for thought.

            For the comment about subpar easy to medium game: No, it’s not. you should have a game that’s good through and through. But using SWTOR which is something everyone is using: lots of players that got to the end of the game kinda gave up on it because of the idea that they did not care to play a game that had little to no endgame content so we can flip this and say ‘Is it really a flimsy rationalization that SWTOR is a good game because it has a great leveling system but awful endgame mechanics and ideas?”. I personally don’t think so but some people would argue that it failed on that reason alone.

            –

            Honestly, my ONLY complaint here, as I stated in my second comment, is the fact that he did not get to the end of the CB level wise and based his opinion on giving up halfway through. And not only did he not take a tactful way of saying “Well, maybe it’s just not a game for me as there are a few things I don’t like” and THEN list them…instead of just going and say “So yeah, this game is TERA-BLE”, which is a much more negative stance, which rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Also the F2P comment will rankle people who have been following this game for months if not a couple of years. It’s not F2P in Korea so far, and Korea apparently hate the game.Anyway, I’ve typed enough about this. I need everyone to understand that I don’t hate Gary, I don’t want him to die in a burning fire; hell, he makes me laugh a lot of times and I do enjoy the shows. To me, as a human being, I did not like the host of a show that is becoming more popular, state that a game is terrible because he didn’t even finish the test and gave up on it. If he gave up on a game that was out, I could understand. But a CB is a CB and there are many changes that happen within a CB. I just wish he had used more tact and from the comments on here, a lot of people do agree with it. (Or every fanboi white knight from TERA forums came in and blasted em which I disagree with as well)

            The point is that I don’t want Gamebreaker to get tarnished with a reputation that it doesn’t evaluate the games enough. Gary’s comment made it that this starts a slippery road and if the host of the show won’t even put the effort to get to the end, then how can we take anything he says or who he invites to be credible. (Cept Mike B. He’s still awesomesauce in my book, even though he be all hatin it.) ;)

          • basmithtx

            No opinions are unbiased.  Gary illustrates his biases clearly.

            Dungeons and BAMs don’t have much if any bearing on the topics that were discussed (questing, movement, etc).  Dungeons and elite mobs exist in just about every game, so they’re not some magical cure-all and people can have reasonable expectations.

            >>>So I’m kinda weighing every piece of information about the game and saying “Well, it can’t be that bad of an issue.”<<>>”And not only did he not take a tactful way of saying “Well, maybe it’s just not a game for me as there are a few things I don’t like” and THEN list them…instead of just going and say “So yeah, this game is TERA-BLE”<<<

            BUT HE DID!  For example, he said he has a strong preference for storytelling and interesting questing, so he really disliked the questing in TERA and found it boring.  This is what I'm talking about when I say he qualified his complaints.

            Everybody knows TERA is in beta, and there's no reason to assume that a future TWIMMO won't have updated opinions.

            The primary thing here is that the criticisms were transparent – they explained the origin of the criticisms, allowing you to evaluate if you would concur or not.  I could understand your criticism if they weren't transparent and Gary didn't give any specific reasoning.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Joey.Morrone Joey Morrone

      I don’t want to play a boring game and the justification being, “These first x levels of the game are bad, but when I get to THIS level it rocks.” A game should be fun right out of the gate. Why would I want to HATE a game I am playing? I want to have fun RIGHT AWAY.

      I pre-ordered the CE of TERA so I am not a hater. I just view things differently. This is why I am excited about Guild Wars 2. They threw out all the garbage like my example above.

      • Roger McKay

         Unfortunately, GW2 threw out some good things too. Like mounts.

        The overflow servers sound like a great idea. No mounts sucks.

      • Stefan Ushev

        Have you ever consider that the first few lvls on every game are made for ppl never played that type game before. Of course it is boring … i mean if its your first time playing an MMO i bet you will have fun… but that is not the case … ppl like you and me have tried thousands of MMO’s we have done that route millions of times.

    • Roger McKay

       Yeah, right, because they are going insert all the story in at the last minute. NO. Not going to happen.

  • Novaseason

    Love the new site guys looks great. You guys kick butt. 

    • Dude

      I really have to ask this… how stupid are these guys? They said there is no action in Tera? Wow, you have obviously never played the game. You guys are completely clueless about Tera or got paid off by NCSoft to trash it or something along those lines.

      You guys obviously suck at skill based games and love the tab targeting while you eat your cake and sandwich during raids.
      You really should actually play Tera past level 11 before talking, cause you guys are idiots.

      • Dude

        Oh and what are you guys, like 50 years old?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002985452649 Matthew Trudelle

    I like the Nintendo MMO idea never thought of something like that. Smash Bros Online… I smell e-sports!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002985452649 Matthew Trudelle

    And thanks for picking my question guys! Gamebreaker kicks ass!

    • Dude

      Sucks ass… I fixed it for you.

  • Verus

    Could not agree more on Terable. Shame really since the game could have been great if it was made of someone like blizzard or bioware. It has a nice looking unreal engine and some of the combat is fine but the rest just suck.

    Questing is horrible and I´m sure it goes even more grindy like Aion did at higher levels.

    • Dude

      Actually, it’s not grindy at all and it’s AWSOME! Bioware and Blizzard both made games that are for carebears and people with no skill.

    • Grindy?

      I do not see how it is at all grindy. I reached the max level of the first Closed Beta test within 12 hours of play (level 22). If the combat is fine, and graphics are fine, what more are you expecting from an MMO? WoW, Rift, SWTOR, all have mediocre questlines and stories (exception being SWTOR’s decent overall storyline, which still isn’t worth playing more than once). I’m well aware that Tera’s voice acting and story are sub par, but everything else is far beyond average.

    • Roger McKay

       Well, maybe NOT BioWare.

    • rexzshadow

       Its not the game is not grindy -.- even in ktera you cap in like 2 month if your playing casual. also questing is avg, it doesn’t suck. When has been avg mean it sucks? When has a single game had every aspect of it perfect?

  • samhainous

    Haven’t watched the episode yet but can I assume that Gary prefaced his statements about his beta experience with a preamble about how he knows it’s beta, and things can change and all that?
     The game could go thru changes in less than 3 months from release to make it more appealing but all this talk of having to stand still in an “action” game seems contradictory to what Tera is supposed to be about. I’ll keep an eye on it because it’s a little different and prettier than most games and not to mention that the adult female characters belong in a nerd wank bank.
     

    • Dude

      I didn’t watch the entire episode cause they are pretty stupid and will never watch another episode again. There is no standing still in the game, unless you want to die. They have NO clue how to play a skill based game and should stick with doing reviews on carebear games like SWTOR and WOW.
      SWTOR is such a fail game, its not even funny. All you do is level from 1-50 with a stupid story to be honest. It is not as epic as people think and the choices you make have no change what so ever on the outcome of the story line. The only thing you can actually choose is to kill someone or not on the quests. That is it and nothing else, and this STILL has the same outcome at the end.

      Oh and SWTOR has no kind of pvp, its complete garbage, just like the company Bioware turned into with launching SWTOR… GARBAGE.

    • It’s funny,

      He said himself that he got to level 11, which means that he didn’t get off of the beginner island. Which means that the island was handholding quests, with really easy mobs that do no even aggro until attacked. He’s speaking with little to no experience of the game.

  • http://twitter.com/Crimendorsement Jeffrey Eisenberg

    Re:  Tera  I understand the desire to have a newbie zone be the “grabbing content” that is highly interesting…but beware of the “Tortage Syndrome” associated with AoC.  It’s awfully tough to be consistent from level 1-max.

    Re:  Wildstar  How can 140 character quest text convey a story?  Is this going to be a story-less MMO?  Is that really what people want?  One paragraph of lore is insignificant…but in a game with 3000 quests…there’s 3000 potential story paragraphs.  Honestly, this decision can very easily be thought of a “too expensive” decision. 

    Re:  Firefall.  That Red 5 dev has a great rack.  That being said…in an FPS…there is no gameplay if there are no people in your area.  An ever expanding area can very well dilute the population so there are too few people in too large an area…making uninteresting gameplay

    Re:  TSW  I already conveyed my thoughts about the pre-set decks on your forums.  Additionally no one is more distressed about the lack of gameplay video than myself.  The game is scheduled launch in less than 75 days.  Still no open beta.  Still very little hand or at least eyes on.  At this point I can only assume the game is just not ready.  That can be very disappointing.

    Re:  Untapped IP.  This has been discussed 18.27 gajrillion times.  My answer:  Fallout.  Mass Effect…Iunno.  The more and more I think about it, I like Kagitaar’s idea that Bioware may have been better served by making KOTOR 3 than SWTOR.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cheryl-Duran/100000982457480 Cheryl Duran

      The Secret World’s press NDA or whatever NDA it is…drops tomorrow! One day after GW2′s. Not smart but hey, we’ll have our info.

  • http://twitter.com/AmythieI Kamil

    The quests are no different than WoW or Swtor tbh. After a certain point you just stop caring and click trough them. I have no idea why people find this such a huge issue in Tera.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cheryl-Duran/100000982457480 Cheryl Duran

      I think this is an unfair assessment as I found several quests that had me chuckling and I actually have a clue as to why I’m there, why I’m helping this or that NPC and the overarching threat that’s right around the corner (higher levels).

  • http://twitter.com/Hengman87 Chettra Heng

    Gary is biased because of what is being said about Guild Wars 2 and how awesome it’s going to be. So no other game will look as good now. Don’t blame Gary, blame Arena Net for making such an awesome game.

    • Dude

      Lol! GW2 is going to be such a huge dissapointment it’s not even funny.

      • http://twitter.com/Hengman87 Chettra Heng

        Hey Dude, what planet do you live on?

        • rexzshadow

           Earth where do you live? Because no way any game can live up to the hype you GW2 fanboy put it up to. Whats even more funny is all those people never even play the game. So yes i’m very looking forward to GW2 and watching people cry over it. Be fun.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/K4T7EIJ3MGNJF5SM2ISDDDBHVY Nick

      Sad fanboi is sad…. Sowhat will happen if Gw2 is a flop or disappointment? are you going to come back on here and say you where wrong?

      • http://twitter.com/Feothyr Carsten L.

        It’s funny, because that simply is not going to happen :)

        TERA’s already been on the market for almost a year in Korea and GW2 hasn’t been released yet and still gets better reviews. I’m not saying that TERA sucks or that it’s a bad game – it just seems that GW2 is more fun.
        Compared with a lot of other MMO companies the ArenaNet devs tend to keep their promises. They do not announce any feature until it’s not already in the game, working and being tested. GW2 might be a dissappointment for some people in the way that some of them aren’t open minded enough and still think in the categories of standard MMOs,such as tank, healer, dps, the fun stuff is at max lvl, etc. Actually grinding up your way to max level in GW2 as fast as possible would be the most dumbest thing to do, because you miss all of the content and all of the fun. That’s one of the major differences between GW2 and other MMOs – GW2 let’s you have fun right away from the beginning as compared to other games, where you have to grind up to lvl XY to get to the fun stuff …
        Again – TERA will probably be pretty neat but it’s not in the same league as Guild Wars 2.

        I haven’t seen one single negative article about the Guild Wars 2 press beta from last weekend. Have you?

  • Cosian

    Certainly folks that have been anxiously awaiting this title and the promise of True Action Combat are going to be pretty disappointed with GBTV’s less than favorable review.  That said, I felt the same way as Gary and the crew after playing a couple characters to level 16 and 17. 

    Even when factoring in that it is only closed beta 1 and the fact I did not make it to level 22 where people say it gets better …… other than cool characters and good graphics the whole experience felt like I was playing something circa 2007.  I felt like I was grinding through something that was not very good in the hopes that something good might be coming later.

    Bascially nothing engaging happened through 17 levels and my health never got below 80%.  I understand new combat mechanics such as presented here need to be rolled out slowly, but bascially the only fun thing was watching my female toon bounce around.

    If this game is truely about action PvP combat, then just make it about that and don’t make me wade through a bunch of Grade C- content to get to it. 

    • Dude

      You must not have really played the game then. The game is amazing and fun from the start. The combat actually requires skill, so you guys with no skill will dislike that game, that is true and I can see why you do not like it.

      Tera is not about button mashing, bunny hopping and tab targeting while eating your cake. Sorry, it takes none stop movement, skilla and strategy. Go play your WOW and SWTOR as those are both carebear games.

      • basmithtx

        Do you have Tera underwear?

    • Peculiar,

      If you got through to level 17 without getting below 80%, then you must have either played Lancer, or be exaggerating completely.

      • Roger McKay

         So, Lancers are totally OP, then?

        • rexzshadow

           Call blocking, you don’t take much dmg but your dmg is low. Learn how tank works.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/K4T7EIJ3MGNJF5SM2ISDDDBHVY Nick

      yet again you didnt make it up to the BAM’s or dungeon… lvl 22+ is when you will start encountering harder mobs

    • rexzshadow

       Its call a learning curve, of not everything right off the bat isn’t going to be increadly hard as there are people that suggle with some of the content. Also why did you stop at 16/17? Your first BAM is about 3-4 lvl away along with that first dungeon. You basically decide to stop right before the best part and point out all the faults during the entire part that was suppose to be teaching players.

  • http://twitter.com/Hyprtitn Shane Stocker

    While I don’t entirely agree with Gary’s point, one thing he said stuck out to me.  If someone fairly new coming into an mmo or the “casual” that doesn’t push for endgame, and all they see is the exact same quests over and over again it’s going to get boring fast. 

    When I played Vindictus I had a blast, it was amazing and fun….for about 2 weeks.  I know Tera has the open world aspect but if it feels like you’re doing the same thing over and over again you will end up with the same results.

    This is coming from someone that is fairly excited for Tera, I think it has great potential, but if I want to beat my head off the keyboard after a few hours of questing, the game won’t hold my interest. 

    It’s hard for a lot of people in this community especially because most of us are fairly “hardcore” MMO players, so trying to understand how the “casuals” (who are the vast majority of players nowadays) play isn’t easy.  I’m willing to put up with some crap to get to the meat of the game, but how many players are like that in the MMO space?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cheryl-Duran/100000982457480 Cheryl Duran

      i think that’s where the upcoming major update for K-TERA comes in. Queen of the Argon. The devs are not deaf and they know the shortcomings of their own game. 

      • Roger McKay

         So, clearly, we should all wait until that content is in and working before buying Tera?

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cheryl-Duran/100000982457480 Cheryl Duran

          No, only those who have been saying TERA was ~almost~ a purchase but not quite.

    • rexzshadow

       You don’t have to quest you can farm BAM’s instead and just enjoy the combat, the quest is standard mmorpg quest, since when has been standard = fail questing? There is no game out there that does every aspect of the game perfectly. And even if you play casual you probably cap in 2 month.

  • ceewolf

    Mike S. gets more awkward by the day..you amuze me sir, thank you..

  • Andrewbison

    Rooted animations are there for a reason and you can aim most of your skills to hit moving targets… it doesn’t matter that you are stuck in place, its part of using that specific skill. Hell, some skills you can charge up and move around with and “let it go”.

    You can even skip a skill if its not going to hit an enemy by using your dodge/block or skipping a skill with the combo system.

    Jumping while in combat = ranged classes becoming ridiculous kiting machines, so no thanks… they have dodges and teleport for that.

    HIT BOXES ARE NORMALIZED FOR NA RELEASE … THEY SAID SO LIKE 1000 TIMES. Why do people keep questioning this!?! Granted people may be thrown by “smaller” avatars… its not an issue for any serious PvP player.

    I share the disappointment of some of your other viewers of your lack of coverage and failure to reach lvl 22.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/K4T7EIJ3MGNJF5SM2ISDDDBHVY Nick

      Bc people are stupid and dont do there research? 

  • http://twitter.com/xAcaDia AcaDia

    I’d have to agree with Krenian on every point. The fact that he didn’t past level 11 means he didn’t try out any group play like dungeons or BAMS (Big ass monsters).

    All you guys really did was bash the game really mainly complaining about the repetition with quests yet this is a problem almost every MMO genre has. Get quest, kill mobs, turn in, exp. Hell WoW still has this, obviously some of there quests are straying away from that but they also got 5+ years under there belt and multiple expansions.

    Anywho in my opinion they didn’t give it a shot, and the stuff they complained about was stupid.

  • skuko

    these 3 guys are simply retarded noobs lol. just because the combat is DIFFERENT, doesn’t mean it’s bad.

    instead of bashing the game, you should try to become better at it.

    loled at your “impressions”. go back to your tab to target skillspam mongoloid games :D

  • Kifix

    Really can’t agree with what was said about TERA. Plus the way it was said made for a pretty disappointing show with some blind asian MMO hate that sounded rather stupid.

    I will just pick one thing : the “rooting” of animations in combat. THAT’S GREAT. Yep. And yes, it sucked in Aion. Because in Aion, it was one of many skills that rooted you, and on the other hand you could kite forever, jump shot, etc… Here, you have to chose. You can’t just spam your keyboard keys randomly, you have to think, prepare your attacks. It makes for PvP fights that are a lot more interesting ! 

    Now i’m not saying that absolutely have to like it, but it’s stupid to just dismiss it because it’s different, without REALLY testing it.

  • dante1025

    WoW, SWTOR, Rift all of them have the same quest design…kill 10 rats right?
    Why so biased?? Gary u suck!!!

    A VERY DISAPPOINTING EPISODE!!!!!!

  • Sylvie

    I agree 100% with Krenian

  • dante1025

    YEAH of course! U guys are paid by NCsoft to trash TERA

    So busted, TOO obvious.

    Im playing K-tera, and soloing elite mobs is very challenging and is a great fun to me.

    I dont think these guys ever played Monster Hunter…rooting animation? What u expect then?

    This EP is so biased…they bear a grudge against TERA.

    Kill 10 rats/pigs is in all current MMOs!!

  • Iamdath

    It’s really nice to know that a group of people that give their opinions before having them being legitimately educated are not popularly known.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/K4T7EIJ3MGNJF5SM2ISDDDBHVY Nick

    Sigh…. a waste of my time. Sorry but this proves clearly yall dont know ANYTHING about the game and assume you know how EVERYTHING in TERA will be like from just lvl to 11. Another fail note sorry your ToR and WoW and RIFT even Gw2 will have or already has the same quest. Sorry to burst your bubble of stupid since no matter how you want to sugar coat it all 4 of those games has the same type of questing as TERA in some shape or form.

    I guess this is how people pick games only get to lvl 10 and they assume everything is like it is at the starter zones

    • Roger McKay

       That is because most MMOs go downhill after the starting zones. Particularly end game.

      Devs are there to make money, and they will pitch their game to sell it. Even if it turns out to suck.

  • dante1025

    LOL! just niticed Gary played till level 11!  Great!! he gives opinions after 2 hours of game play.
    (1 hour on character creator)

    • Roger McKay

       Got news for you. A LOT of people will quit an MMO if they are not having fun by level 11. Maybe not you, and maybe not me, but a lot will.

      • rexzshadow

         I rather not have fun the first 1-2hr and have a blast for the next few years than been fool by fancy voice over and give up on it because after you finish there there is nothing there, and your end up waiting for other game hoping it won’t suck. That said i had fun from lvl 1 with the new combat, for once in my life i was in full control of my blocking.

  • Hotshotgg

    Sound like WoW fanboys expecting a JK Rowling style writing from a company releasing their first game, get real buddies. I actually had a laugh at the NPC ‘s corny jokes, don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • Roger McKay

       REALLY? J.K. Rowling? Is that the ONLY author’s name you know?

  • Phreak

    These guys didn’t even fight a single BAM and they wan’t to release a review. HA! You haven’t even played the game yet. They’ve stated atleast 700 times the first 20 levels are for beginners.

  • Go Back to WoW

    I can’t believe you think a game, where everyone walks on the ground, relies on jumping. You dumb shits.

  • Akeche

    Not impressed guys, not impressed at all.  Level fucking 11? Fucking Level 11?! So ALL you did was the starting island, that’s it, no other content.  You got to the city and went “whelp time to give my impressions herpdafuckingderp”.  For christs sake you guys are pathetic, you didn’t bother trying group content you didn’t bother getting to the very low Level cap for the beta.

    I mean… damn, I tend to like you guys even if I don’t always agree with your shit but this ‘impressions’ video is the thing that’s terrible, not the game.

  • http://www.facebook.com/LordBastor Boris Gaganelov

     Haters gonna hate…
    “Newbie island is too slow and stiff” duh….
    You played the tutorial of a game and are commenting on it. Nice job.

    If anyone cares – when you get more than 7-8 skills on your bar action and movement more or less done via skill chains and aim.
    Jumping is not supposed to be a combat mechanic…there are combat jumps at higher level.

    None of the quests in the first 22 levels of the game were different from the Korean Open Beta. No quests were added at those levels.
    Level 20-38 content is incredible but you don’t have enough skills to actually kill challenging mobs at the start….

    You should try finding basiliks at lvl 18, kumas at lvl 20 etc etc. BAMs ftw.

  • pc11

    All questing is grinding! SWTOR for all their voiced over kill 10 rat quests is linear and gets boring fast. When you couple that with shitty repetitive gameplay and crap fully bugged engame then you should be throwing your SWTOR box around! Yeah class story is fine but every other quest in the game is there for the spacebar skip. If you want to play a story RPG Mass Effect 3 is out in March.

    Tera is not about story and is not about questing it is about the combat system and pumping fights. If they fix the small issues with combat they have atm it will be far more entertaining than Yawn Wars.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Rose-Drinnon/794144125 Rose Drinnon

    I think the animation and animation rooting was done very well. Archers and sorcs already have EXTREMELY powerful skills, the only draw back is they have a lofty animation and a small charge-up time. This prevents the game from allowing them to one-shot with ease, and gives a skilled player the ability to avoid being one-shot while giving a skilled ranged player a challenge (to either utilize teamwork in order to charge their skill or use a combination of skills to give them a window). Also, in Tera you very gradually  gain skills. I think this makes lower levels a bit dull, but if you play a more challenging class like a Warrior or Mystic it gives you a great opportunity to hone your abilities. My Mystic at level 11 was pretty boring, at level 22 I was FREAKING OUT thinking of ways to manage all my new skills and future skills.

    Anyone trying to give a bad impression of Tera is just admitting being incompetent as a gamer in my eyes. This is a triple A title,  but it’s definitely in favor of skilled gamers who are experienced in a variety of genres. Its for the people who beef up their rigs, and couldn’t possibly use stock peripherals. It is an MMO for gamers, and maybe that is its biggest fault, but it rocks hard. 

    You need to level up, noobs. You don’t know what you’re talking about and aren’t qualified to form an opinion just because you graduated from the happiest island in the world. 

    • Roger McKay

       Nope, it is the devs who need to level up, because people are not going to suffer for 20 levels to get to the fun. That era is over.

  • http://twitter.com/WindsWilling Voice O Reason

    Ignorant PC-only gamers at it again.  You can use a usb KB/M on the PS3, so no, “herp need keyboard attachment for controllers”.  ALSO, FFXI mixed consoles with PC players years ago, derp.  UT3 PS3 allowed KB/M.  Watch what knowledge you eat before you talk out of your ass.

  • Anthonyzdravko

    I can barely watch Gary talk, he’s brutal.

    • Jeremy Whallon

       I’d rather watch ten shows where the host is overly critical in pointing out a game’s failings, potentially saving me $60, than watch a single show that is effusive in its praise while ignoring the negative parts.

      • Roger McKay

        Yes indeed, but what show are you talking about?

  • http://www.facebook.com/Hokonoso Chris White

    Serious pvp’ers love the stop animations as they are more realistic.  You cant run, jump, turn and shoot bow, then turn and not lose speed in real life… It also adds strategy, think street fighter, when someone throws a fireball as you jump, you have that brief second where they are locked in position where you can pwn their arse.  This is a pvp’ers dream, if you want instant combat you have wow, if you want near-instant combat you have rift and swtor, but if you want real pvp combat tera is the next hope for pvpers.

  • Epic

    Fail Commentary. Fail Trolling. Obvious GW2 fanboism.

  • Hero

    Gamebreakertv is obviously paid off by NCSoft.

  • Haze4peace

    Gary has been Anti-TERA since the beginning. I’m okay with him not
    liking the game. Really it doesn’t bother me. But Gary took it too far.
    He went from the professional to the non-professional by the end of the
    impression.

  • http://twitter.com/Nerdoku Zach McGuire

    I didn’t play Tera as I didn’t get invited to the beta, but I would like to check it out. Now that being said I don’t really care what Gary or anyone else says really. I still want to check out the game, but the blatant FABOISM from people in these comments is making me wary of the community. Why because someone has a differing opinion from what you think do you need to say “tehy is be stoopid and I be not lik there shows no moar”  I just don’t get it…..

    Cool Gary didn’t like the game. I’m glad he found that out and can play something else :)  
    Really what people need to understand is sometimes people won’t like what you like and that’s A-OK!!!! 
    That being said I know someone will be like “well you stoopid cause he is like a reviewer and whatnots so he should be nots bias” and really ALL VIDEO GAME REVIEWS ARE BIAS either they like the game or don’t. 

    Cheers guys, thanks for the great shows and content.

    • basmithtx

      Good to see some rational thinking.

    • rexzshadow

      Likeing or not liking a game is fine, everyone has different taste. It was obvious he didn’t like it but even if you don’t like a game you never go as far as to bash it. I mean saying it will be F2P is going pretty far.

      • Jeremy Whallon

         How is suggesting the game make use of a business model that has proven to be widely successful for similar games considered bashing? Just because you consider F2P games garbage doesn’t mean Gary, someone whose job it is to know the ins-and-outs of the gaming industry, does.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cheryl-Duran/100000982457480 Cheryl Duran

          Are people this blind and so far up these so-called game “journalists” butts that they believe this kind of crock? Or do they not see in which manner Derpy meant everything he said? He wants the game to utterly fail.

    • Jeremy Whallon

       The reality of the world, Zach, is that people seek affirmation of their beliefs and react negatively when they receive differently.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Byrne/100001642673542 Michael Byrne

    “Counter Strike Go” is one of the first cross servers games??? Final Fantasy XI was cross platform servers for PC, PS2, and XBOX 360 all together….and others have done it as well. For guys I normally think have a good grasp, this episode seemed like they were off a bit.

  • PhilMcGuy

    You guys do know that all animation based attacks can be broken by doing a dodge, block or evade based ability right? 

    You also know that, by level 22, some classes get attacks which cancels certain attacks to work slightly more stronger, right?

    It is rather unfortunate that my first view of this website happens to be on this rather poorly researched preview. 

  • dante1025

    It is cool Gary didn’t like the game, but he brutally attacked the game without a single idea how the game works. This gona misguide a lot ppl.

    Its ok if you dont like it, but please just leave it and STFU if you dont know much about it, dont misguide ppl.

  • Sibercat

    Tera haters die in fiery fire.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Brandon777 Brandon Martinez

    I’d like GG to point me to an action game where your not stuck in the animation?  Batman (Best action game ever) punishes button spamming and mistiming attacks big time, it does this by making you suck in your attack animations.  It takes some skill to play and some strategy.

    What they really should have said is this “I like tab targeting and spamming keyboard buttons.  I also like being on roller skates while I fight in melee.  Therefore I do not like Tera”.  They could have cut 20 minutes out of the show by just saying that.  And saved themselves some damage control on the forums.

    I’m with Krenian, this is the first time I have been disappointed by a Twimmo show.  First they show a complete lack of knowledge about what action is and is not and then trash a game after playing it for 15 minutes.  Then they try to defend their review on the EME forums.  LOL is all I have to say about that.

  • Ryan Streich

    gary didnt like it but it seemed mikeb liked the game just fine.the combat is really fun and it dont take alot of pc power to play it.i had nearly any lag at all and i dont have that good of system.

  • Jessica

    I’m going to be honest, this is one of the most disappointing GBTV shows I’ve seen since the Rift show.

    Yes, I agree with some of the points (eg. root animations, jump) but I cannot believe how badly you guys are ripping on this game after all the praise you lauded upon SWTOR.  TOR had decent voice acting and a decent story.  That’s all it had going for it.  The combat was slow and clunky and full of delay.  There were bugs upon bugs upon bugs – many of which WERE game breaking as it lead to being unable to play.  My first trip into a raid saw bosses named ‘boss monster 1′, bosses not dropping loot, bosses constantly resetting at ~10%, party members falling over dead for absolutely no reason, and MANY more.  My first trip into a warzone lead to being knocked all over the place, stunned, pulled around, and just generally feeling completely out of control of my character.  My second attempt to enjoy a warzone lead to being positively raped by an opposing team full of 50s with all their gear and all their talents and all their abilities.  Once the devs finally started trying to fix stuff, their patches seemed to break more than they fixed.  The game was linear to the extreme and rolling alts (essentially the only endgame they have) is completely un-enjoyable.

    I don’t think I will EVER be watching GBTV again.  I’m tired of the blatant bias and misinformation I have seen from Gary. 

    • basmithtx

      These aren’t reviews or verdicts, they’re general impressions…and people have different preferences and opinions.  You’re right about ToR’s problems, but in my experience they aren’t glaring until a moderate way into the game.  First impressions for a great many people were very positive.

      Further, if you watch the ToR show you’ll see plenty of criticisms for the game covering pretty much everything you’ve mentioned.

      Their complaints for the Tera beta are generally all qualified… i.e., Gary says that he prefers significant attention to story, so that’s why he’s really unhappy with the how the questing is at present.  Most rational people can take away some useful information, as he doesn’t simply say “it sux”.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/6SXTDFKIIQUE2PCGGWFE4FEDTY NathanS

        He said it should be free to play. How is that not saying “It sux”?!

  • http://gatemoth.pip.verisignlabs.com/ X

    The quests really are bad with uninspired writing.   While grinding is not generally fun, the action component makes the fights significantly more interesting when the enemies stop being stupidly easy. The big thing that these guys missed by only playing lvls 1-11 is that the game gets a lot harder. As I mentioned on the Tera forums, the game really changes once the enemies get harder and players need to play intelligently. BAMs are the other huge thing that they entirely missed by not making it to 20.

  • Miss Mary

     I agree with Krenian and Rose. Normally I enjoy your shows, but this one was a let down. How can you judge a game from just playing up to lvl 11? Tera doesn’t really get started until the early 20′s. Yes, the quests are pretty much the same, but I didn’t mind hardly at all because the gameplay is so different and fun! And each class has it’s own feel due to the active combat play.

    Gary get back to us when you’ve leveled up more!  :P

  • Kyle Willett

    I don’t play mmo’s for the quests or the story lines, I play them to kill things with other people (including killing other players) If a MMO makes this more fun than another, I’m going to play that MMO. Its as simple as that.

  • Mendoza9

    The 2 IP’s that have been screaming for an mmorpg are Pokémon and Harry Potter, they both have a giant audience, a very developed world, and the potential to attract people that have never ever played an mmorpg before. Eventhough their fanbase might be considered a teen and young audience, people that has grown with any of this franchises would be sure to check out the game out of nostalgia, and people who weren’t even fans but are used to playing mmo’s, are familiar enough with the titles to give the game a chance.

    The Nintendo MMO idea sounds a bit like Fusion Fall, which featured Cartoon Network characters which didn’t do very well.But honestly any mmo with poor production values is doomed to be forgotten and buried, and in the best of chases re-launched as F2P. I’m sure Nintendo has the resources and creativity to make such a project work, but I’m afraid there isn’t any room in their research and development staff for this kind of kind of project in the following 2-4 years.

    • Roger McKay

       The bigger the IP is, the worse the MMO will be. 1 – because it CAN be and still sell a ton of boxes. 2 – Because too much of the dev money went into the licensing fee. 3 – because the owners of the IP will tinker too much with the game.

      • rexzshadow

         You mean like SWTOR?

        • Roger McKay

           Yes.

  • Elra Druid

    I agree with Krenian too. I really don’t understand the level of Tera hate, but whatever I mean these guys loved Rift and SWTOR, and I was very disappointed with both those games.

  • Stefan Ushev

    I agree whit Krenian plus that is not true that u are not able to move while casting … i played a berserker to lvl 22 and i did notice that some of the skills that when you charge them u are able to slowly move i suppose that there might be skill augmentation or thinks that will let u move while casting

  • Eric Sita

    This game feels good and fun.  It is Korean based so its a different style.  I personally liked it better then SWTOR.  I am so bored of that pile of crap its sickening.

  • Sharuko

    I would pay money to watch Gary try and solo a BAM.

    • Roger McKay

       Make a decent donation, and he would probably make that video for you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/IGHugs Michael Crane

    This game is so fun the action is just different then every other tab target auto-attack game. And its obvious that it wont be for everyone. But for them to play till lvl 11 out of almost 22 and to make a sweep declarations like this proves that these guys have no place doing reviews.

  • Viking Gamer

    I will admit that I don’t like how jumping prevents you from doing things and I don’t like how an instant cast spell roots you for a half sec as you cast it. However, It seems to me that most of the animation rooting has more to do with forcing you into certain actions for a time period so that people can react do you. Of course this is exactly what they hate but think about it. When you fight the monsters, you have to watch them and figure out what they do and how long it takes them to do it. One know what they do and how long it takes for them to do it you can plan how you will react. So the animation rooting is how they game forces you to act a bit more like a mob and also forces you to consider your timing. I have to hold back my last blast so that I can jump away right at the moment that tree starts to pull back to hit me. Once he starts his move, I know that is when I have to jump, because he has to finish.

    So I realize it is frustrating but I think it is intended as part of the combat strategy and timing. So I think they completely missed the point there. As for the jumping, you can get knocked down easier. I don’t think you are supposed to be jumping around in combat by design. Jump over a rock, fine. but jumping randomly to make yourself harder to hit like a baby spider monkey on crack with its tail on fire is simply annoying. I suspect they are just used to jumping around in games to be hard to hit and they, again, are not getting the point of having to move strategically.

    That said, he was right about the quest text. It is not much. but then I enjoyed the combat so much I didn’t care what the quests were. The real fun was in actually killing things unlike other MMOs where killing things is simply the chore you have to do to earn your next little tidbit of the story. Granted, having great story WITH great combat would be even better but I guess right now I  am more in the mood for a game that will be fun to fight in rather than telling a story that lasts only until you finish it and then you have no where to go.

    this game will not appeal to everyone but for those who enjoy how the combat plays it will be a very good choice.

  • Armand D

    Tera: Facerolling WoWtards need not apply.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1000076690 Joe Benga

    All these terra lovers will disappear when guild wars 2 comes out.

    • rexzshadow

       ya coz we have too much fun watching all the people cry over GW2 because no way can it live up to the hype GW2 fanboys put it up to. Can’t wait for GW2 release.

      • Cosian

        I posted …

        Certainly folks that have been anxiously
        awaiting this title and the promise of True Action Combat are going to be
        pretty disappointed with GBTV’s less than favorable review.  That said, I
        felt the same way as Gary and the crew after playing a couple characters to
        level 16 and 17.  Even when factoring in that it is only closed
        beta 1 and the fact I did not make it to level 22 where people say it gets
        better …… other than cool characters and good graphics the whole
        experience felt like I was playing something circa 2007.  I felt like I
        was grinding through something that was not very good in the hopes
        that something good might be coming later.Bascially nothing engaging
        happened through 17 levels and my health never got below 80%.  I
        understand new combat mechanics such as presented here…

        You posted …

         Its call a learning curve, of not
        everything right off the bat isn’t going to be increadly hard as there are
        people that suggle with some of the content. Also why did you stop at 16/17?
        Your first BAM is about 3-4 lvl away along with that first dungeon. You
        basically decide to stop right before the best part and point out all the
        faults during the entire part that was suppose to be teaching players.

        In this and other posts you seem to be making excuses for what amounts to junk content with the promise of some holy grail endgame.  I have to go through 22 levels to get to something remotely good?  If this game is truely about some great endgame, then why bother with everything in between at all?  Further, despite a pretty cool combat system … which if it gets balanced .. might be pretty good, all the other mechanics suggest the game will not have sustainable PvP.  Combat appears to still be very gear centric with tiered gear sets.  This spells disaster for long term sustainable PvP as new players entering the game 4 months from now have to deal with twinked level capped players farming noobs. 

        Anyway, I am approaching CBT2 today with an open mind and we will again see how it plays …

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Martin/1058242406 Thomas Martin

    Nothing wrong with the jumping. The whole “rooting system” is exactly why the action is more action. You have to actually use some skill not just mash the ability and hope it hits. You have to be smart about your attacking. And frankly the way people play hopscotch in WoW is very annoying. Thats why they implemented abilities that you dodge, and such. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Thomas-Martin/1058242406 Thomas Martin

    WoW totally had epic openings upon release.  DERRRP! This old guy is clearly an old guy. Complaining about the dumbest things… Looking to much into this like a WoW player.

  • Joe Fite

    Moron alert! Time to stop visiting this site. Tera is anything but Tera-bile.

    Yes, GW2 is looking good. But you can count on NCsoft to find a way to screw it up. Just wait…..

    • rexzshadow

       doesn’t need NCSoft to screw it the GW2 fanboy doing pretty good job themselves.

  • Brian Town

    lol terrible “review” classes dont even flesh out till 25, CBT1 had no showing of world pvp, only 1 dungeon which was far better then all of Cataclysms raid content so far, and the game as a whole was a lot more fun then people give it credit for. Dodging attacks is a blast, feeling like you’re swinging weapon is actually hitting mobs instead of only targetting one like most MMOs is fun as hell.

  • http://twitter.com/Aoewin Maxime Beaulieu

    Mike already answered in this thread on Tera forum… if you failed at figuring this out, than maybe you dont really pay attention at the shows, cause its pretty obvious

    **I know its a quote, but Im way too lazy to creat an account on Tera just to tell ya that. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1527752998 Alex Ignatov

    wow. How much did BioWare/EA pay you for this “review” *cough 1st impression*?  What a joke.

  • Fading1

    One thing that people are overlooking, is the fact that you have to be a bit more strategic with your attacks. This is what makes the combat in Tera so great! No more canceling a skill with a jump! No more kiting with an OP ranged class! If you decide to attack with a skill, you are committed to using that skill! This is what makes the PVP aspect of the game so exciting! You have to have skill and strategy to be good at it!

    I’ve played multiple mmo’s where there is always one/two classes that are so OP it’s game breaking. Look at Aion. The number of people rolling sorc/sm/ranger is retarded! The combat mechanics in Aion allow for to much kiting by already OP classes! Melee’s do not have much of a chance to get close, let alone catch up when they proceed to kite.

    With the combat in Tera you have to be a bit more anticipatory of the other players actions. This makes it more about strategy and less about op class skills/armor. I for one spent the whole CBT1 leveling 2 toons to 22 and PVP’d withe anyone of any class just to get a feel for how the game mechanics worked. Playing a slayer was by far the most fun I had! The ability to dodge out of another characters attack and chain skill into a move that puts me up in there face and allows me the opening I need to let off with a huge skill was AWESOME! I meet alot of great pvpers that fit right in with this style of combat with every type of race/class that was offered!

    I think that people just are still to used to the same old game mechanics that have plauged the mmo world for a long LONG time! Tab/spam skills/kite/rinse/repeat I’m friggin amazing at pvp! *sigh* This makes for a lazy gamer and doesn’t bring much for strategy into pvp play imo.

    I said IN MY OPINION! Cause I can have one and everyone else is entitled to theirs as well.

    See you ingame.

    -Fading

  • Fading1

     One thing that people are overlooking, is the fact that you have to be a
    bit more strategic with your attacks. This is what makes the combat in
    Tera so great! No more canceling a skill with a jump! No more kiting
    with an OP ranged class! If you decide to attack with a skill, you are
    committed to using that skill! This is what makes the PVP aspect of the
    game so exciting! You have to have skill and strategy to be good at it!

    I’ve played multiple mmo’s where there is always one/two classes that
    are so OP it’s game breaking. Look at Aion. The number of people rolling
    sorc/sm/ranger is retarded! The combat mechanics in Aion allow for to
    much kiting by already OP classes! Melee’s do not have much of a chance
    to get close, let alone catch up when they proceed to kite.

    With the combat in Tera you have to be a bit more anticipatory of the
    other players actions. This makes it more about strategy and less about
    op class skills/armor. I for one spent the whole CBT1 leveling 2 toons
    to 22 and PVP’d withe anyone of any class just to get a feel for how the
    game mechanics worked. Playing a slayer was by far the most fun I had!
    The ability to dodge out of another characters attack and chain skill
    into a move that puts me up in there face and allows me the opening I
    need to let off with a huge skill was AWESOME! I meet alot of great
    pvpers that fit right in with this style of combat with every type of
    race/class that was offered!

    I think that people just are still to used to the same old game
    mechanics that have plauged the mmo world for a long LONG time! Tab/spam
    skills/kite/rinse/repeat I’m friggin amazing at pvp! *sigh* This makes
    for a lazy gamer and doesn’t bring much for strategy into pvp play imo.

    I said IN MY OPINION! Cause I can have one and everyone else is entitled to theirs as well.

    See you ingame.

    -Fading

  • Fading1

    oops sorry double posted!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Cheryl-Duran/100000982457480 Cheryl Duran

    Look how many posts TERA incites on the video game shows section of the website and on the forums.

    Cha-ching? Eh Gary? This gives them fuel to continue on their hate-parade.

  • Christopher Boggs

    Almost as bad as your show :(

  • http://twitter.com/Rodiercz Vit Novotny

    can anyone tell me name of song / band when  twimmo starts?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Frankie-Shober/100002542687033 Frankie Shober

    I want to add that I love coming to GBtv to see all the guys talk and have fun and do their shows. I love coming to get the commentaries, reviews, crticisms, game videos, episodes, etc. However, I as an avid fan & viewer of GBtv, was very disappointed in this episode and I think Gary give a very unfair review of Tera based on what he said he actually did and the time spent(or lack thereof).
     
    Gary’s ”impressions” of Tera are one thing, wether you agree with them or not is another topic; but to go that step further and outright ‘bash’ and tear-down the game unnecessarily saying things such as “TERA-ble” is unnecessary. Then to further make a joke of Tera and mock it in future other episodes, as a big fan of GBtv it really makes me upset…… how unprofessional this is to ridicule any game in this way. No matter what the title is……. one can dislike a game, one can have a very harsh review for a game, but to go out of one’s way to take every opportunity to cast aspersions upon a game is very irresponsible. Unfortunately the few things he said positively about Tera fall into the shadows after all this. 
     
    As a game press journalist/critic/reviewer one takes on a position in which one have a responsibility to be as fair and accurate as possible. How Gary portrayed himself in this episode and since over Tera shows a real lack of maturity, professionalism, and a loss of credibility for other game reviews in the future.

     Gary shows a lot of bias towards other games such as GW2 & Diablo3 of which things he dislikes in Tera he overlooks in those games. If you watch the respective episodes you can see this for yourself. It takes Gary from being being unprofessional and losing credibility to being hypocritical.
     
    I think there is a lesson to learn here and I hope Gary and the team learn to not make this mistake again in any game they review in the future. Each game deserves a full fair unbiased review. I would like to see Gary(and the guys) actually put in some real time and play “the game” and not just the starter zone from just the first closed beta test weekend. There are 5 closed betas 2 weeks apart each over 3 months and one open beta to cap it off. A lot is being changed after each closed beta and it deserves another full fair play/review perhaps in Open Beta Week with a follow up episode.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/4MUWLWPCSPHTWUSIS2JME2QXKI Peter

    The island is a Tutorial Stage… and with how fast players can level up in this game, playing only up to lvl 11 is a BIG MISTAKE!! 

    If they give up on a game that fast, I wonder how much they got paid to rave about even more boring games like SWTOR… 

    GARY – go read a damn book if the story is required to kickass immediately… oh wait, those take their own pace to build up as well. 

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